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David Woodbury (SysOp)
by :   David Woodbury (SysOp)
4/22/08

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Q: The change I would most like to see in the CW Forum:





#2 of 27

     Posted 4/22/08 2:28 AM   
David Woodbury (SysOp)
 
From  David Woodbury (SysOp)  Posts 2403  Last Jun-23
To  All      [Msg # 127344.2 Message 127344.2 replying to 127344.1 127344.1 ]    
If you have some specific suggestions you'd like to see implemented in or considered for the Forum, please don't hesitate to offer them up here in reply to this thread.

Thanks,
David
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     Posted 4/22/08 8:59 AM   
meserves
 
From  meserves  Posts 3475  Last Nov-17
To  David Woodbury (SysOp)      [Msg # 127344.3 Message 127344.3 replying to 127344.2 127344.2 ]    

>If you have some specific suggestions you'd like to see implemented in or considered for the Forum, please don't hesitate to offer them up here in reply to this thread.<

I think it is great just to see more message traffic here. If changing section titles will help, I'm all for it. The important thing is just to keep the discussions going.

Steve Meserve

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     Posted 4/23/08 3:11 AM   
David Woodbury (SysOp)
 
From  David Woodbury (SysOp)  Posts 2403  Last Jun-23
To  meserves      [Msg # 127344.4 Message 127344.4 replying to 127344.3 127344.3 ]    

>>I think it is great just to see more message traffic here. If changing section titles will help, I'm all for it. The important thing is just to keep the discussions going.<<

I tend to agree that it's not really a matter of tweaking the section headings just so, though a change here and there might help. We'll definitely go forward with the trivia again -- I'll try to get that set up for next week.

dw

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#5 of 27

     Posted 4/23/08 10:52 AM   
Rosemary
 
From  Rosemary  Posts 130  Last Nov-24
To  David Woodbury (SysOp)      [Msg # 127344.5 Message 127344.5 replying to 127344.1 127344.1 ]    

David,

Keep up the trivia...it's fun. Sometime I might even participate. Well, that would be a real coming out event.

 Even though I'll never have time to read all the books I have, I'd like to see more book reviews as well as comments on the contents of current CW magazines.

Finally, changing/tweaking the topic titles just for a fresh look.

That's my 2 cents worth.

Rosemary

 

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     Posted 4/23/08 3:24 PM   
David Woodbury (SysOp)
 
From  David Woodbury (SysOp)  Posts 2403  Last Jun-23
To  Rosemary      [Msg # 127344.6 Message 127344.6 replying to 127344.5 127344.5 ]    

Thanks Rosemary. That's helpful.

The Table of Contents for various periodicals would be nice to see, particularly for those of us who don't subscribe to them anymore. I usually run out and buy a copy if I hear others discussing something in particular, or if there's an article by someone like Steve.

dw

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#7 of 27

     Posted 4/24/08 12:03 AM   
Lorne Colmar
 
From  Lorne Colmar  Posts 58  Last 5/31/08
To  David Woodbury (SysOp)      [Msg # 127344.7 Message 127344.7 replying to 127344.2 127344.2 ]    
David,

Maybe a bit rich coming from Mr Seen-Once-In-A-Blue-Moon here, but a couple of thoughts given my coincidental (and long overdue) reacquaintance with the forum. Some of this depends on / assumes some flexibility in the presentation of threads, so your mileage may vary....

1.) Consider a "Getting Started" section. A section of the forum targetted at newcomers / occasional visitors containing archived threads or "stickies" on the principle events of the war. A "Dummies Guide" if you will?

2.) Consider a "CW Debates" section. As noted by others, this would hold exchanges on the recurring issues that seem to crop up with regular frequency e.g. the causes of the CW, relative significance of the East / West campaigns or even, dare I say it, the infamous "Black Confederates".

3.) Consider a standalone "Any Questions" section - a generic location for any/all CW queries to be posted. As replies come in and the discussion develops, can then be moved to a more appropriate thematic section? This might go some way to reinvigorating the activity on the forum as it'd be a regular haunt for most folk (either as questioners or answerers) and likely to generate some debate.

Of course, a more radical option may be to revisit the idea mooted some time ago of extending the forum's reach and potential audience by moving away from the Compuserve / AOL environment to a more accessible Web-based location. However, in saying that, I fully recognise that's not a decision to be taken lightly given the consequent compromises.



Lorne
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     Posted 4/24/08 12:28 AM   
David Woodbury (SysOp)
 
From  David Woodbury (SysOp)  Posts 2403  Last Jun-23
To  Lorne Colmar      [Msg # 127344.8 Message 127344.8 replying to 127344.7 127344.7 ]    
Lorne,

Good to hear from you. I think all your suggestions are excellent. Thanks for weighing in. Your once-in-a-blue-moon status makes for a fresh perspective. Each of those enumerated ideas would be worth trying out, I think.

I like the notion of containing "debates" in a single section. Among other things, it would make it easy for disinterested parties to avoid those recycled arguments.

Regarding a move away from CIS/AOL, I know there are ever better alternatives out there, but I'm inclined to stay put as long as they'll have us. We're all comfortable with the forum architecture and features, and from a technical standpoint, it's very low maintenance for me.

I am bothered, however, to hear that some unknown number of people are having trouble accessing the forum easily and consistently. I've been hoping that if I ignore that problem long enough, it will go away. More recently I've seen forum threads come up in Google searches, with direct links to the thread (with guest access). I need to take some time to first understand what the hurtles are, then try to come up with reliable workarounds (something short of having to choose a new user name each time one enters).

David
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#9 of 27

     Posted 4/24/08 8:11 AM   
Anne Hughes
 
From  Anne Hughes  Posts 2824  Last Nov-22
To  Lorne Colmar      [Msg # 127344.9 Message 127344.9 replying to 127344.7 127344.7 ]    

Hello stranger

How the devil are you?  Sitting at the office, accessing the forum on my Vodaphone broadband stick, 2G rather than the promotional 3G (which I do get at home, admittedly), so it is a bit slow.  Accessing cwcav the same way, too.  Ain't technology grand!

Good to see you back here, and you should visit more often.  We're off to the Shenandoah Valley next March - how about attending another reunion?

Regards - Anne

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#10 of 27

     Posted 4/24/08 10:59 AM   
Lorne Colmar
 
From  Lorne Colmar  Posts 58  Last 5/31/08
To  David Woodbury (SysOp)      [Msg # 127344.10 Message 127344.10 replying to 127344.8 127344.8 ]    
David,

Can certainly appreciate the potential downside of moving to a more open Web-based format. Specifically, it'd jeopardise the convivial intimacy that has been a defining characteristic of this forum and a clear differentiation between the CS and non-CS format. In looking to retain that and yet still increase participation, I suupose attention then has to turn to how to introduce new people into the current format. If there are indeed issues surrounding forum access from the broader Web, this may stymie any such ambition.

My thoughts re the additional forum sections emanated from a thought that some kind of half-way house might encourage contributions from lurkers etc. There's no doubt whatsoever that the level of CW knowledge, breadth and detail of research and outright expertise demonstrated through the many existing contributors is impressive. But it can be a tad intimidating for a newcomer or an enthusiast maybe embarking upon recreational CW studies who may not feel themselves well enough equipped knowledge-wise to make a contribution to a discussion. Providing some kind of introductory "sandbox" might encourage the reticent to stick their toes in the water. And anyway, you guys and gals have such a deep understanding of, and enthusiasm for, CW matters that it's crying out to be shared in a wider community.

Lorne 
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#11 of 27

     Posted 4/24/08 11:32 AM   
Lorne Colmar
 
From  Lorne Colmar  Posts 58  Last 5/31/08
To  Anne Hughes      [Msg # 127344.11 Message 127344.11 replying to 127344.9 127344.9 ]    
Anne,

I'm OK-ish. Another bout of the top-up lurgy that laid me out last year pitched camp inside me again in February and I've only now started to evict the unwelcome interloper. But it's par for the course - I can expect 1-2 instances of this a year now - so nothing to be too concerned about.

More's the point - how are you? Very busy I see but you'd alluded to this last time we spoke. I'm hoping the trouble that struck before Christmas has now cleared up?

Shenandoah '64 campaign? I caught that when running through the forum last night. It'd be nice - very nice - but, unfortunately, a non-starter. Spirit remains more than willing (espec. since I've just realised it's been 10 years since ChickChatt) but the flesh is beyond redemption <g>. Oh sure, there's scope to do a visit sometime and sate the appetitie created from the Chattanooga and Gettysburg tours, but I'd find myself doing these cocooned in a car and tootling round the access roads. To be honest, if I can't get out and across the actual ground to get a proper appreciation of the lie of the land etc, I don't really think there's much point.

Lorne
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     Posted 4/25/08 9:06 AM   
meserves
 
From  meserves  Posts 3475  Last Nov-17
To  Lorne Colmar      [Msg # 127344.12 Message 127344.12 replying to 127344.10 127344.10 ]    

>But it can be a tad intimidating for a newcomer or an enthusiast maybe embarking upon recreational CW studies who may not feel themselves well enough equipped knowledge-wise to make a contribution to a discussion.<

The greatest contribution any of us, novice or experienced, can make to a discussion is to ask questions. Unfortunately, too many people worry about "dumb" questions. As my grandfather used to say, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask.

All of us are students here, whether we came to our interest in the war, as Anne did, through Ted Turner's movie, or have been studying it longer than some of our group have been alive. There's no one here who knows everything there is to know about the war, or who has all the answers. The search for answers is what makes the topic interesting. Of course, I have to admit, the time we spend trying to show David, John and  few other misguided souls the error of their ways and convince them that the real war was fought on the Eastern Seaboard makes for some amusing interludes.

Steve Meserve

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#13 of 27

     Posted 4/25/08 3:58 PM   
Anne Hughes
 
From  Anne Hughes  Posts 2824  Last Nov-22
To  Lorne Colmar      [Msg # 127344.13 Message 127344.13 replying to 127344.11 127344.11 ]    

Lorne

Sorry to hear the lurgy is still being troublesome. I apologise, as I should have remembered that it would make attending a reunion difficult, and I agree with you.  It would be very frustrating to attend, but be so restricted.

Yeah, up to my eyes in it, as usual, up and down the country (or countries, I guess!). 

I'm probably about 70% recovered, but I wouldn't have been able to stand a transatlantic trip this spring, or been able to walk over much rough ground, come to that.  Getting old is a bummer<g>  With the predicted nice weather tomorrow (must be that one day of Spring we get every year), I'm eyeing up the garden, but I know I'll be struggling if I try to do any serious digging.

Regards - Anne

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#14 of 27

     Posted 4/25/08 5:40 PM   
Pete Romeika
 
From  Pete Romeika  Posts 777  Last 6/3/08
To  Lorne Colmar      [Msg # 127344.14 Message 127344.14 replying to 127344.11 127344.11 ]    

HI Lorne:

Good to see you in the forum.

Regards,
Pete

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#15 of 27

     Posted 4/25/08 7:23 PM   
Lorne Colmar
 
From  Lorne Colmar  Posts 58  Last 5/31/08
To  Pete Romeika      [Msg # 127344.15 Message 127344.15 replying to 127344.14 127344.14 ]    
Pete,

It's a pleasure to be back, a return visit inspired by my impulsive book-buying tendencies bringing the first CW title into my collection for several years. I've a bit of a reading backlog to catch up on before I plough into the book so it'll probably be a halting return to the CW fold right now. Knowing me though, I wouldn't be surprised to find myself delving back into CW studies, dusting down the copy of the OR and trying to make sense of why some misguided souls make such a noise about cavalry.... <g>.

Lorne
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#16 of 27

     Posted 4/26/08 9:55 AM   
Pete Romeika
 
From  Pete Romeika  Posts 777  Last 6/3/08
To  Lorne Colmar      [Msg # 127344.16 Message 127344.16 replying to 127344.15 127344.15 ]    


Lorne:

Theres no such thing as a one book civil war library<g>.

Regards,
Pete

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#17 of 27

     Posted 4/26/08 9:56 AM   
Pete Romeika
 
From  Pete Romeika  Posts 777  Last 6/3/08
To  Lorne Colmar      [Msg # 127344.17 Message 127344.17 replying to 127344.15 127344.15 ]    


Lorne:

Theres no such thing as a one book civil war library<g>.

Regards,
Pete

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#18 of 27

     Posted 4/27/08 12:41 PM   
Anne Hughes
 
From  Anne Hughes  Posts 2824  Last Nov-22
To  David Woodbury (SysOp)      [Msg # 127344.18 Message 127344.18 replying to 127344.2 127344.2 ]    

David

The number of votes cast thus far (9) seems to bear out the thoughts of Steve's original post; re the lack of active participation...!

Regards - Anne

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#19 of 27

     Posted 4/27/08 2:56 PM   
David Woodbury (SysOp)
 
From  David Woodbury (SysOp)  Posts 2403  Last Jun-23
To  Anne Hughes      [Msg # 127344.19 Message 127344.19 replying to 127344.18 127344.18 ]    
I just realized I forgot to add the option, "I like things just the way they are," which might haver garnered a few more responses.

dw
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#20 of 27

     Posted 4/27/08 7:10 PM   
Terry Blaurock
 
From  Terry Blaurock  Posts 1015  Last 5/25/09
To  David Woodbury (SysOp)      [Msg # 127344.20 Message 127344.20 replying to 127344.1 127344.1 ]    

My vote is for tinkering with the names of the threads. I think one on Roundtables or meetings would encourage people to post what they are doing locally. So, that's what I'd like to see added, or replacing one less trafficked.

Were we once limited to 20? There are 14 now?

AVSIG has 23, which suited their list of topics.

Terry

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