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Where Ya Go'in',PILGRIM?

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#1 of 34 Posted Nov-2 8:51 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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Two pilgrims go out huntingTurkey BlunderbusTurkey Blunderbuss

One hunter has two blunderbusses.

The second pilgrim asks, 'Why do you have two blunderbusses?'

The first pilgrim explains, 'I usually miss the first time I shoot. By taking two I can shoot again.'

The second pilgrim thinks for a while and then says, 'Why not just take the second one, and only shoot once?'

#2 of 34 Posted Nov-2 8:54 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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Why the Pilgrim's pants always falling down?
Because they wore their buckles in their hats.

What happed to the Pilgrim who was shot at by an Indian?
He had an arrow miss.

'Nathaniel you know an ancestor of mine came over on the Mayflower.'
Nathaniel replied: 'Really? Which rat was he?'

Why did the hungry Pilgrim eat the last candle
He wanted a light snack.

'I was going to serve sweet potatoes with Thanksgiving dinner, but I sat on them.'
'So what are you serving now?'
'Squash.'

#3 of 34 Posted Nov-2 8:55 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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What was the Pilgrim Fathers and Mothers favorite dance?
The Plymouth Rock

How much did the Mayflower weigh?
A Puri-TON

Teacher: "Why did the Pilgrims sail to America?"
Student: "Maybe they missed their plane."

Why was Plymouth Rock so brave?
It was a little boulder.

When did the Pilgrims first say "God bless America?"
The first time they heard America sneeze!

#4 of 34 Posted Nov-2 8:56 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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What do you call the dirt on a Pilgrim's hands?
Pilgrime!

How did the Mayflower show that it liked America?
It hugged the shore

Why does a pilgrim's pants always fall down?
Because they wear their belt buckle on their hat.

When the Pilgrims landed, where did they stand?
On their feet!

Why did the Pilgrim eat a candle?
He wanted a light snack!

If April showers bring May flowers, what do May flowers bring?
Pilgrims!

#5 of 34 Posted Nov-2 8:58 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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If the Pilgrims were alive today, what would they be most famous for?
Their AGE

What kind of music did the Pilgrims like?
Plymouth Rock

Why did the Indian chief wear so many feathers?
To keep his wigwam

What happened to the Pilgrim who was shot at by an Indian?
He had an arrow escape

If pilgrims were alive today, what would they say? Do not resuscitate.

Why do you eat a turkey rather than keep it as a pet? Because otherwise it will use fowl language on you.

#6 of 34 Posted Nov-2 8:58 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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What do you call it when you drop a turkey from a helicopter? Dead weight.

What do you call the age of a pilgrim? Pilgrimage.

What kind of cars would pilgrims drive today? Plymouth.

What kind of tan did pilgrims get at the beach? Puritan.

What kind of face does a pilgrim make when he's in pain? Pil-grimace.

What's the smallest unit of measurement in the pilgrim cookbook? Pilgram.

What's a pilgrim's mother called? Pilgranny.

In what country is Thanksgiving ironically not celebrated? Turkey.

#7 of 34 Posted Nov-2 8:59 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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What do you call a pilgrims vocabulary? Pilgrammar.

What do Thanksgiving and Halloween have in common? One has gobblers, the other goblins.

If you call a large turkey a gobbler what do you call a small one? Goblet.

What was the turkey suspected of? Fowl play.

Hear about the turkey that evaded the Indian? It had an arrow escape.

What is Thanksgiving for selfish people called? Thankstaking.

What do you call the evil being that comes to get pilgrims? PilGrim Reaper.

#8 of 34 Posted Nov-2 9:01 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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Mayflower Passenger List

http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/mayflower/mayflower_passenger_list.htm
(GEB MD 18,I,2+) Proof of the name of the ship that brought these first pilgrims is found in the fourth page of the first volume of the Plymouth Colony Records of Deeds wherein Governor Bradford writes "The fales of their grounds which came first over in the Mayflower according as thier loses were cast ." (1623)

Bradford further tells us that her burden was "about nine score." Additional studies determined her master to be Christopher Jones.

(GEB) " Between 1620 and 1630 a "Mayflower," or "Mayflowers," crossed the seas three times. One in 1620 carried the Pilgrim Fathers to New Plymouth; one in 1629 carried Higginson's party to Salem; and one in 1630 carried Winthrop's party to Charlestown. It has generally been assumed that these three voyages were made by the same ship; but the strong probability is that the voyages of 1629 and 1630 were not made by the ship that sailed in 1620." According to Bowman the name Mayflower for ships was uncommonly common, with numerous ships of that name trading from numerous ports abroad.

(Hotten) William Trevore and ____ Ely, two crew members; are commonly, but incorrectly reckoned in the number of the first company of passengers for the Colony; BRADFORD himself says: "Two other seamen were hired to stay a year; when their time was out they both returned." Accordingly he says of the Mayflower company: "These being about a hundred souls, came over in the first ship." Afterwards he adds: "Of these one hundred persons who came over in this first ship together, the greatest half died in the general mortality, and most of them in two or three months' time." Omitting those two hired sailors who returned, and counting the person that died and the child that was born while on the passage as one passenger, we have the exact number---one hundred of the Pilgrim Company, "who came over in the first ship." And, as fifty-one died the first season, this enumeration makes good those other words of the historian, that,"the greater half died in the general mortality."
Alden, John Born about 1599. Died at Duxbury, 12 September, 1687. He married, at Plymouth, before 1624, Priscilla Mullins (WILLIAM1) Ten children. Numerous descendants.
Allerton, Isaac Isaac Allerton was born about 1586. He died at New Haven, Conn., before 22 February, 1659. He married, first, at Leiden, 4 November, 1611, MARY NORRIS. He married, second, at Plymouth, between July, 1623, and 1 June, 1627, Fear2 Brewster (WILLIAM1), who died at presumably at Plymouth in 1634. He married, third, before 1644, Joanna Swinnerton, who survived him.

Allerton, Mary (Norris), wife, died at Plymouth, 7 March, 1621
Allerton, Bartholomew, son., Born about 1612/13. Born at Leiden. He returned to England, married and had children there, and was living in 1650.
Allerton, Mary, daughter. Born at Leiden abt. 1617. Died at Plymouth, MA, 28 November 1699, . She married, at Plymouth, about 1636, Thomas Cushman, who was born in February, 1608, and died at Plymouth, 22 December 1691.
Allerton, Remember, daughter Born about 1615, m. by 6 May 1635 Moses Maverick
Allerton, John Seaman on the Mayflower. Not known to be related to ISAAC. Died at Plymouth, between 11 January and 10 April, 1621. No known issue.
Billington, John Hanged at Plymouth, in September, 1630. He married by about 1607 ELEANOR—
Billington, Eleanor, wife. Died after 12 March, 1643. She had married, second, at Plymouth, in September, 1638, Gregory Armstrong, who died at Plymouth, 15 November, 1650.
Billington, John son, b. say 1604, d.Plymouth between 22 May, 1627 and September 1630, unmarried.
Billington, Francis son, b. about 1606; married Plymouth, July, 1634 Christian (Penn) Eaton, widow of Francis Eaton. He died December 1684, Middleboro, MA.
Bradford, William Bp. Austerfield, Yorkshire, 19 March, 1589/90., son of William and Alice (Hanson) Bradford. Died at Plymouth, May 9, 1657. He married, first, in Amsterdam, Holland, 10 December, 1613, DOROTHY MAY, . He married, second, at Plymouth, 24 August, 1623, Alice (Carpenter) Southworth (widow of Edward Southworth). 3 Children, William, Mercy, Joseph. She died Plymouth, 26, March 1670.
Bradford, Dorothy (May) wife She was born about 1597, and was accidentally drowned at Cape Cod Harbor, December, 1620. One child, John. m. Martha Bourne
Brewster, William Born in 1566 or 1567, prob. Scrooby, Nottinghamshire, son of William Brewster. Died at Duxbury, 10 April, 1644. He married, before 1593, MARY, surname unknown despite extensive research to date.
Brewster, Mary, wife Died at Plymouth, 17 April, 1627. Surname unknown.
Brewster, Love, son B. about 1607-11. Died at Duxbury, late 1650 or early 1651. He married at Plymouth 15 May, 1634, Sarah2 Collier (William1)
Brewster, Wrestling, son Died, unmarried, between after 1627 and before 1651
Britteridge, Richard Bradford, as quoted by Prince says, "Dec 21 [1620], dies Richard Britteridge, the first who dies in this harbour." Single, among the signers of the Mayflower Compact.
Browne, Peter Born by about 1600. Died at Plymouth, 1633. He married, first, at Plymouth, by 1626, Martha (—) Ford, who died at Plymouth, 1630 or 1631. Children Mary and Priscilla. He married, second, Mary _____ by 1631. Children: Rebecca, child -- name unknown, d. by 1647 Mary was also prob. dead by 1647as one of her daughters sells land without reference to widow's dower rights.
Button, William A youth, servant to Samuel Fuller who died as "they drew near the coast."
Carter, Robert Servant of William Mullens. "died the first winter." (Bradford)
Carver, John Governor at Plymouth until his sudden death in April, 1621. Born by about 1580-85. By 1609 was married to Catherine (White) Leggatt, daughter of Alexander White.
Carver, Katherine (Leggett)(White), wife She died Plymouth about five or six weeks after her husband. No known surviving children. Two possible unknown children buried Leiden.
Chilton, James Tailor. Born about 1556 probably at Canterbury, son of Lionel Chilton. Married by 1586. Died on the Mayflower, at Cape Cod Harbor, about 8 December, 1620. Another daughter Isabella came later and married Roger Chandler.
Chilton, Mrs. wife His wife died early in 1621, after 11 January. Neither her maiden nor surname are known..
Chilton, Mary daughter Baptised St. Peters's, Sandwich, May 1607. Died at Boston, shortly before 1 May, 1679. She married, at Plymouth, by 1 June, 1627, John Winslow, who was bp. at Droitwich, England, 18 April, 1597, son of Edward and Magdalen (Oliver) Winslow.
Clarke, Richard Died soon after arrival in the general sickness. Among the signers of the Mayflower Compact.
Cooke, Francis Born in or shortly after 1583, died Plymouth 7 April 1663.

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#9 of 34 Posted Nov-2 9:02 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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Governor Bradfords Accounting of the Mayflower Passengers
http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/mayflower/governor_bradfords_list.htm
Mayflower Descendant 1899: 1:1:16

The names of those which came over first, in ye year . 1620. and were (by the blesing of God) the first beginers, and (in a sort) the foundation, of all the plantations, and Colonies, in New England. (And their families.)

mr John Carver. Kathrine his wife. Desire Minter; & .2. man-servants John Howland Roger Wilder. William Latham, a boy. & a maid servant. & a child yt was put to him called, Jasper More

mr William Brewster. Mary his wife, with .2. sons, whose names were
Love, & Wrasling. and a boy was put to him called Richard More; and another of his brothers the rest of his childeren were left behind & came over afterwards.

mr Edward Winslow Elizabeth his wife, & 2 men servants, caled Georg Sowle, and Elias Story; also a litle girle was put to him caled Ellen, the sister of Richard More.

William Bradford, and Dorathy his wife, having but one child, a sone left      behind, who came afterward.

mr Isaack Allerton, and Mary. his wife; with .3. children Bartholmew Remember, & Mary. and a servant boy, John Hooke.

mr Samuell fuller; and a servant, caled William Butten. His wife was
behind & a child, which came afterwards.

John Crakston and his sone John Crakston

Captin Myles Standish and Rose, his wife

Mr Christpher Martin, and his wife; and .2. servants, Salamon prower, and John Langemore

mr William Mullines, and his wife; and .2. children Joseph, & priscila; and a servant Robart Carter.

mr William White, and Susana his wife; and one sone caled resolved, and one borne a ship-bord caled perigriene; & .2. servants, named William Holbeck, & Edward Thomson

mr Steven Hopkins, & Elizabeth his wife; and .2. children, caled Giles,and Constanta a doughter, both by a former wife. And .2. more by this wife, caled Damaris, & Oceanus, the last was borne at sea. And .2. servants, called Edward Doty, and Edward Litster.

mr Richard Warren, but his wife and children were lefte behind and came   afterwards

John Billinton, and Elen his wife: and .2. sones John, & Francis.

Edward Tillie, and Ann his wife: and .2. childeren that were their cossens; Henery Samson, and Humillity Coper

John Tillie, and his wife; and Eelizabeth their doughter

Francis Cooke, and his sone John; But his wife & other children came afterwards

Thomas Rogers, and Joseph his sone; his other children came afterwards.

Thomas Tinker, and his wife, and a Sone

John Rigdale; and Alice his wife.

James Chilton, and his wife, and Mary their dougter; they had another
doughter yt was maried came afterward.

Edward fuller, and his wife; and Samuell their sonne

John Turner, and .2. sones; he had a doughter came some years after to
Salem, wher she is now living.

Francis Eaton. and Sarah his wife, and Samuell their sone, a yong child   Moyses fletcher, John Goodman, Thomas Williams, Digerie Preist, Edmond Margeson, Peter Browne, Richard Britterige, Richard Clarke, Richard Gardenar, Gilbart Winslow

John Alden was hired for a cooper, at South-Hampton wher the ship victuled; and being a hopefull yong man was much desired, but left to his owne liking to go, or stay when he came here, but he stayed, and maryed here.

John Allerton, and Thomas Enlish were both hired, the later to goe mr of a
shalop here. and ye other was reputed as one of ye company, but was to go back (being a seaman) for the help of others behind. But they both dyed here, before the shipe returned.

Ther were allso other .2. seamen hired to stay a year here in the country, William Trevore; and one Ely. But when their time was out they both returned.

These bening aboute a hundred sowls came over in this first ship; and began this worke, which god of his goodnes hath hithertoo blesed; let his holy name have ye praise. And seeing it hath pleased him to give me to see. 30. years compleated, since these beginings. And that the great works of his providence are to be observed. I have thought it not unworthy my paines, to take a veiw of the decreasings, & Increasings of these persons, and such change as hath pased over them, & theirs, in this thirty years. It may be of some use to such as come after; but however I shall rest in my owne benefite.
I will therefore take them in order as they lye.

mr Carver and his wife, dyed the first year, he in ye spring, she in ye somer; also his man Roger, and ye litle boy Jasper, dyed before either of them, of ye commone Infection. Desire Minter, returned to her freind & proved not very well, and dyed in England. His servant boy Latham after more then .20. years stay in the country went into England; and from thence to the Bahamy Ilands in ye west Indees; and ther with some others was stavred for want of food. His maid servant maried, &c dyed a year or tow after here in this place. His servant John Howland maried the doughter of      John Tillie, Elizabeth, and they are both now living; and have .10. children     now all living and their eldest doughter hath .4. children And ther .2. dougter, one, all living and other of their Children mariagable. so .15. are come of them.

mr Brewster lived to very old age; about .80. years he was when he dyed, having lived some .23. or .24. years here in ye countrie. & though his wife dyed long before, yet she dyed aged. His sone Wrastle dyed a yonge man unmaried; his sone Love, lived till this year . 1650. and dyed, & left .4.children, now living. His doughters which came over after him, are dead but have left sundry children alive; his eldst sone is still liveing, and hath .9. or . 10. children, one maried. who hath a child, or .2.

Richard More, his brother dyed the first winter; but he is maried, and hath .4. or .5. children, all living.

mr Ed: Winslow, his wife dyed the first winter; and he maried with the 2. widow of mr White, and hath .2. children living by her marigable, beside sundry that are dead. one of his servants dyed, as also the litle girle soone after the ships arivall. But his man Georg Sowle, is still living, and hath .8. children.

William Bradford, his wife dyed soone after their arivall; and he maried againe; and hath .4. children, .3: wherof are maried. who dyed 9 of May, 1658.*

mr Allerton his wife dyed with the first, and his servant John Hooke. his sone Bartle is maried in England but I know not how many children he hath. His doughter remember is maried at Salem & hath .3. or .4 children living. And his doughter mary is maried here, & hath 4. children. Him selfe maried againe with ye dougter of m

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#10 of 34 Posted Nov-2 9:12 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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Notable Women: Christmas Readings
http://womenshistory.about.com/library/etext/whx/bl_christmas_earle.htm
From "Customs and Fashions in Old New England," 1903.

COLONIAL CHRISTMASES

The first century of colonial life saw few set times and days for pleasure. The holy days of the English Church were as a stench to the Puritan nostrils, and their public celebration was at once rigidly forbidden by the laws of New England. New holidays were not quickly evolved, and the sober gatherings for matters of Church and State for a time took their place. The hatred of "wanton Bacchanallian Christmasses" spent throughout England, as Cotton said, in "revelling, dicing, carding, masking, mumming, consumed in compotations, in interludes, in excess of wine, in mad mirth," was the natural reaction of intelligent and thoughtful minds against the excesses of a festival which had ceased to be a Christian holiday, but was dominated by a lord of misrule who did not hesitate to invade the churches in time of service, in his noisy revels and sports. English Churchmen long ago revolted also against such Christmas observance.

Of the first Pilgrim Christmas we know but little, save that it was spent, as was many a later one, in work.

By 1659 the Puritans had grown to hate Christmas more and more; it was, to use Shakespeare's words, "the bug that feared them all." The very name smacked to them of incense, stole, and monkish jargon; any person who observed it as a holiday by forbearing of labor, feasting, or any other way was to pay five shillings fine, so desirous were they to "beate down every sprout of Episcopacie." Judge Sewall watched jealously the feeling of the people with regard to Christmas, and noted with pleasure on each succeeding year the continuance of common traffic throughout the day. Such entries as this show his attitude: "Dec. 25, 1685. Carts come to town and shops open as usual. Some somehow observe the day, but are vexed I believe that the Body of people profane it, and blessed be God no authority yet to compel them to keep it." When the Church of England established Christmas services in Boston a few years later, we find the judge waging hopeless war against Governor Belcher over it, and hear him praising his son for not going with other boy friends to hear the novel and attractive services. He says: "I dehort mine from Christmas keeping and charge them to forbear."

Christmas could not be regarded till this century as a New England holiday, though in certain localities, such as old Narragansett -- an opulent community which was settled by Episcopalians -- two weeks of Christmas visiting and feasting were entered into with zest by both planters and slaves for many years previous to the revolution.

and............................

http://www.apuritansmind.com/Christmas/DankoChristmasBanned.htm

#11 of 34 Posted Nov-2 11:02 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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The Original Thanksgiving Day
The Surprising First Thanksgiving Menu- No Turkey, No Pumpkin Pie?

A Thanksgiving Without Turkey?, doctor bob
What you don't know about the first Thanksgiving may surprise you.

The only written eyewitness account of the first Thanksgiving dinner was a letter written by colonist Edward Winslow to his friend in England in late 1621. History scholars have scoured this correspondence to try to accurately forge an account of the true Thanksgiving meal. The vision of the feast this letter and history form is far from how it is traditionally replicated in modern America.
Foods That Were Not Served at the First Thanksgiving

     Turkey - Turkey was often eaten by both the Wampanoag and the Pilgrims but is not specifically mentioned in Winslows’ letter. The account mentions “wild fowl” only and could have referred to duck or geese instead of wild turkey.
     Popcorn - There was no popcorn, corn was prevalent but was not popped.
     Cranberry Sauce - Fifty years after 1621 there is mention of a cranberry sauce for use with meat in English recipes. Prior to this time sugar, a necessary ingredient in cranberry sauce was an incredibly expensive import. Both the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag would add whole cranberries as an ingredient to add tartness, however cranberry sauce itself would not appear until the 1670’s.
     Potatoes - White potatoes were virtually unknown in England at the time of the Thanksgiving feast, they were only raised by specialized botanists at the time and were not a part of the English diet. Sweet potatoes were, in the early 1600’s, imported into England from Spain and were used only by the ultra wealthy for their purported aphrodisiac properties.
     Pumpkin Pie - There were no readily available ingredients for the crust of a pumpkin pie at the time. Pumpkin and squash were included in the feast but served as vegetables only. After 1621, pumpkin dessert recipes included pumpkin pieces sliced similar to apples only.
     Apples - Apples were not present in 1621 in Plymouth.

Foods Included in the Original Thanksgiving Feast

In addition to the wild fowl, pumpkin and squash mentioned above, the following foods were certainly abundant and most likely were included in the “harvest” celebration:

     Fish
     Lobsters
     Eel
     Mussels
     Oysters
     Corn
     Parsnips
     Collards
     Turnips
     Spinach
     Onions
     Dried Beans
     Dried Blueberries
     Grapes
     Nuts

1621 Thanksgiving Meal Details

     The celebration lasted for three days, not one, and consisted of intermittent feasting and entertainment (games and shooting of muskets).
     It was most likely held in October, not November.
     There is no evidence that the Indians (Wampanoag) were explicitly invited.
     It was not called “Thanksgiving”. It was a “harvest festival”.
     It did not become an annual event.

“by the goodness of God, we are so far from want that we often wish you partakers of our plenty.” - Edward Winslow – December, 11, 1621

http://americanhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_first_thanksgiving_day

#12 of 34 Posted Nov-2 11:06 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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The Mayflower was the famous ship that transported the English Separatists, better known as the Pilgrims, from Southampton, England, to Plymouth, Massachusetts (which would become the capital of Plymouth Colony), in 1620. There were 102 passengers and a crew of 25-30.

The vessel left England on September 6 (Old Style)/September 16 (New Style),and after a gruelling 66-day journey marked by disease, which claimed two lives, the ship dropped anchor inside the hook tip of Cape Cod (Provincetown Harbor) on November 11/November 21.[1] The Mayflower was originally destined for the mouth of the Hudson River, near present-day New York City, at the northern edge of England's Virginia colony, which itself was established with the 1607 Jamestown Settlement.[3] However, the Mayflower went off course as the winter approached, and remained in Cape Cod Bay. On March 21/28, 1621, all surviving passengers, who had inhabited the ship during the winter, moved ashore at Plymouth, and on April 5/15, the Mayflower, a privately commissioned vessel, returned to England.[1] In 1623, a year after the death of captain Christopher Jones, the Mayflower was most likely dismantled for scrap lumber in Rotherhithe, London

#13 of 34 Posted Nov-2 11:08 AM

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Puritan ChristmasBan Timeline
1620
Dec 25, 1620 - "wonton Bacchanalian feast." New England Puritans shared this hostile attitude toward observing Christmas. Early records indicate that on December 25, 1620, they worked at the erection of their first building in what has been called a "studied neglect" of the day.2 ...
From The American Christmas - Related web pages
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1642
1642 - When the Puritans came to power in England under Oliver Cromwell in 1642, Christmas celebrations were banned as evidences of anti religious sentiment. Penalties were exacted for celebrating Christmas, and for staying home from work on Christmas day.Christmas even in more modern times has not always been remembered with gaiety and good cheer. Excessive frivolity has always been frowned upon by some, and Christmas was not celebrated by the Puritans or Calvinists. When the Puritans came to power in England under Oliver Cromwell in 1642, Christmas celebrations were banned as evidences of anti religious sentiment. Penalties were exacted for celebrating Christmas, and for staying home from work on Christmas day. Show more Show less
From Santa Claus & The History and Customs of Christmas... - Related web pages
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1644
1644 - In 1644, the Puritans banned Christmas celebrations, and Father Christmas as well. People missed the revelry, and the figure of Father Christmas was often used to express their dissatisfaction. It was about this time that he became part of the mummer's plays.In 1644, the Puritans banned Christmas celebrations, and Father Christmas as well. People missed the revelry, and the figure of Father Christmas was often used to express their dissatisfaction. It was about this time that he became part of the mummer's plays. Often, he strode onto the stage at the beginning of the performance, calling to the audience, "In comes I, old Father Christmas, be I welcome or be I not? I hope old Father Christmas, will never be forgot." Show more Show less
From Father Christmas - LoveToKnow Christmas
christmas.lovetoknow.com/Father_Christmas

1645
1645 - In 1645, observance of all festival days, including Christmas, was abolished by Crowell's Parliament. During the 12 years ban, the Middle Ages carol faded in England. The United States, closely allied with Puritanism, restricted itself to singing and writing ...The rise of Puritanism brought the greatest opposition to carols, and to the entire tradition of Christmas. In 1645, observance of all festival days, including Christmas, was abolished by Crowell's Parliament. During the 12 years ban, the Middle Ages carol faded in England. The United States, closely allied with Puritanism, restricted itself to singing and writing hymns. Interest of carols in other countries also waned. From Recent Years until Today. Show more Show less
From History of Christmas Music: Origin of Carols and...
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1647
1647 - Winstanley was born in Essex in the 1600s in the time of Oliver Cromwell's Puritans who in 1647, in the name of reform, cancelled Christmas. After a short period of Britain being a republic Charles II came to the throne and after 13 years of Christmas ...Winstanley was born in Essex in the 1600s in the time of Oliver Cromwell's Puritans who in 1647, in the name of reform, cancelled Christmas. After a short period of Britain being a republic Charles II came to the throne and after 13 years of Christmas-deprivation the celebrations were reinstated. William Winstanley, a poet and writer, reintroduced details of forgotten customs and practices in pamphlets he produced about his family Christmas celebrations, and they became best ... Show more Show less
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1659
1659 - But to orthodox Puritans Christmas celebrations were objectionable as savoring too much of the practices of "Papists." In fact, the General Court of Massachusetts had, in 1659, made the observance of Christmas a punishable offense. Although in the next generation ...To moderns this may seem a singular time to have passed a law. But to orthodox Puritans Christmas celebrations were objectionable as savoring too much of the practices of "Papists." In fact, the General Court of Massachusetts had, in 1659, made the observance of Christmas a punishable offense. Although in the next generation there was a growing disposition to celebrate it, the pillars of the church adhered to the old opposition. This prejudice against Christmas as a festival long ... Show more Show less
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1664
1664 - It was rare in the early Puritan days of our country. In England, the “Dissenters” who executed King Charles I and abolished the Established Church forbade Christmas by Act of Parliament in 1664, requiring that shops be open. Plum puddings were forbidden. All ...It was rare in the early Puritan days of our country. In England, the “Dissenters” who executed King Charles I and abolished the Established Church forbade Christmas by Act of Parliament in 1664, requiring that shops be open. Plum puddings were forbidden. All this sounds like today's secular establishment in our schools and government censoring Christmas symbols and even the name of Christmas (which is a nickname only about one thousand years old, from the Old English “Cristes ... Show more Show less
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1681
1681 - Though the fine for celebrating Christmas was repealed in 1681, the Puritan tradition of fasting and prayer on the holiday died hard in New England. It wasn't that the Puritans had no holidays or fun; they certainly had their own days of celebration, such as ...Though the fine for celebrating Christmas was repealed in 1681, the Puritan tradition of

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#14 of 34 Posted Nov-2 11:26 AM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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The Wampanoag/Pilgrim Treaty

About an hour after noon on a fair, warm day on March 22/April 1, 1621, Samoset and Squanto appeared in the village of Plymouth with some skins and newly caught and dried herrings to trade. They told the colonists that the great Sachem Massasoit was nearby with his brother Quadequina and all their men. About an hour later Massasoit came to the top of the hill with some sixty of his men. However, the Pilgrims were not willing to send their governor to meet them, and the Indians were unwilling to come to them. Squanto went again to Massasoit and brought back word that Massasoit wished to have trade and peace with them, asking the Pilgrims to send someone to parley with him.

Edward Winslow agreed to serve as diplomatic ambassador and went to Massasoit. The scene was described by Winslow in his Journal as follows:

“We sent to the King a payre of Knives, and a Copper Chayne, with a jewell at it. To Quadequina we sent likewise a Knife and a Jewell to hang in his eare, and withall a Pot of strong water, a good quantity of Bisket, and some butter, which were all accepted: our Messenger [Winslow] made a speech unto him, that King James saluted him with words of love and Peace, and did accept him as his Friend and Alie, and that our Governour desired to see him and to trucke with him, and to confirme a Peace with him, and his next neighbour: he liked well of the speech and heard it attentively, though the Interpreters did not well expresse it; after he had eaten and drunke himselfe, and given the rest to his company, he looked upon his messengers sword and armour which he had on, with intimation of his desire to buy it, but on the other side, our messenger shewed his unwillingness to part with it: In the end he left him in the custodie of Quadequina his brother, and came over the brooke, and some twentie men following him, leaving all their Bowes and Arrowes behind them. We kept six or seaven as hostages for our messenger.”

Captain Standish and William Brewster met the king at the brook with half a dozen musketeers, where they saluted him and he them. With Standish on one side of Massasoit and Brewster on the other, they escorted Massasoit to a house which was just being built. On the floor, the Pilgrims had placed a green rug and three or four cushions.

Winslow described Massasoit and his men as “...a very lustie [strong] man, in his best yeares, an able body, grave of countenance, and spare of speech: In his Attyre little or nothing differing from the rest of his followers, only a great Chaine of white bone Beades about his neck, and at it behind his necke, hangs a little bagg of Tobacco, which he dranke and gave us to drinke; his face was paynted with a sad [dark] red like murray, and oyled both head and face, that he looked greasily: All his followers were likewise, were in their faces, in part or in whole painted, some blacke, some red, some yellow, and some white, some with crosses and other Antick [antique] workes, some had skins on them, and some naked, all strong, tall, all men in appearance…”

Immediately, Governor Carver came to the house with drum and trumpet after him and a few musketeers. Governor Carver kissed the hand of Massasoit and Massasoit kissed Carver before they sat down.

Governor Carver called for some strong water, and made a toast to Massasoit. Massasoit drank deeply of the liquor which made him sweat. Then, Carver called for fresh meat, which Massasoit ate and shared with his followers. Later in the text, Winslow remembered additional details: “...one thing I forgot, the King had in his bosome hanging in a string, a great long knife, hee marvelled much at out Trumpet, and some of his men would sound it as well as they could…”

TERMS OF THE TREATY

Following the introductory ceremonies, Carver and Massaoit agreed upon the terms of a peace treaty between the Pilgrims and the Wampanoags. The treaty of mutual support they negotiated said in part:

1. That he nor any of his should do hurt to any of their people.

2. That if any of his did hurt any of theirs, he should send the offender, that they might punish him.

3. That if anything were taken away from any of theirs, he should cause it to be restored; and they should do the like to his.

4. If any did unjustly war against him, they would aid him; if any did war against them, he should aid them.

5. He should send to his neighbors confederates to certify them of this, that they might not wrong them, but might be likewise compromised in the conditions of peace.

6. That when their men came to them, they should leave their bows and arrows behind them.

7. That King James would esteem Massasoit as his friend and ally.

Winslow concluded his account of the treaty signing as follow: “Wee cannot yet conceive, but that he is willing to have peace with us, for they have seene our people sometimes alone two or three in the woods at worke and fowling, when as they offered them no harme as they might easily have done, and especially because hee hath a potent Adversary the Narowhiganseis [Narragansetts], that are at warre with him, against whom hee thinkes wee may be some strength to him…”

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#15 of 34 Posted Nov-2 11:31 AM

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http://www.pilgrimhall.org/ThanxProc1789.htm
PRESIDENTIAL THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATIONS
1789-1815 : George Washington,
John Adams, James Madison

THANKSGIVING DAY 1789
BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - A PROCLAMATION
Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor - and Whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me "to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness."
Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be – That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks – for his kind care and protection of the People of this country previous to their becoming a Nation – for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his providence, which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war –for the great degree of tranquillity, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed – for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted, for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.
And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions – to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually – to render our national government a blessing to all the People, by constantly being a government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed – to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord – To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and Us – and generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.
Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.
GO. WASHINGTON.

THANKSGIVING DAY 1795
BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES – A PROCLAMATION
When we review the calamities which afflict so many other nations, the present condition of the United States affords much matter of consolation and satisfaction. Our exemption hitherto from foreign war, an increasing prospect of the continuance of that exception, the great degree of internal tranquillity we have enjoyed, the recent confirmation of that tranquillity by the suppression of an insurrection which so wantonly threatened it, the happy course of our public affairs in general, the unexampled prosperity of all classes of our citizens, are circumstances which peculiarly mark our situation with indications of the Divine beneficence toward us. In such a state of things it is in an especial manner our duty as a people, with devout reverence and affectionate gratitude, to acknowledge our many and great obligations to Almighty God and to implore Him to continue and confirm the blessings we experience.
Deeply penetrated with this sentiment, I, George Washington, President of the United States, do recommend to all religious societies and denominations, and to all persons whomsoever, within the United States to set apart and observe Thursday, the 19th day of February next as a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, and on that day to meet together and render their sincere and hearty thanks to the Great Ruler of Nations for the manifold and signal mercies which distinguish our lot as a nation, particularly for the possession of constitutions of government which united and by their union establish liberty with order; for the preservation of our peace, foreign and domestic; for the seasonable control which has been given to a spirit of disorder in the suppression of the late insurrection, and generally for the prosperous course of our affairs, public and private; and at the same time humbly and fervently to beseech the kind Author of these blessings graciously to prolong them to us; to imprint on our hearts a deep and solemn sense of our obligations to Him for them; to teach us rightly to estimate their immense value; to preserve us from the arrogance of prosperity, and from hazarding the advantages we enjoy by delusive pursuits; to dispose us to merit the continuance of His favors by not abusing them; by our gratitude for them, and by a correspondent conduct as citizens and men; to render this country more and more a safe and propitious asylum for the unfortunate of other countries; to extend among us true and useful knowledge; to diffuse and establish habits of sobriety, order, morality, and piety, and finally, to impart all the blessings we possess, or ask for ourselves, to the whole family of mankind.
In testimony whereof I have caused the seal of the United States of America to be affixed to these presents, and signed the same with my hand.
Done at the city of Philadelphia, the 1st day of January, 1795, and of the Independence of the United States of America the nineteenth.
By the President : GO. WASHINGTON.

A DAY OF FASTING & HUMILIATION (NOT THANKSGIVING!) 1798
BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES – A PROCLAMATION
As the safety and prosperity of nations ultimately and essentially depend on the protection and the blessing of Almighty God, and the national acknowledgment of this truth is not only an indispensable duty which the people owe to Him, but a duty whose natural influence is favorable to the promotion of that morality and piety without which social happiness can not exist nor the blessings of a free government be enjoyed; and as this duty, at all times incumbent, is so especially in seasons of difficulty or of danger, when existing or threatening calamities, the just judgments of God against prevalent iniquity, are a loud call to repentance and reformation; and as the United States of America are at present placed in a hazardous and afflictive situation by the unfriendly disposition, conduct, and demands of a foreign power, evinced by repeated refusals to receive our messengers of reconciliation and peace, by depredations on our commerce, and the infliction of injuries on very many of our fellow-citizens while engaged in their lawful business on the seas – under these considera

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#16 of 34 Posted Nov-2 12:03 PM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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The ship that landed after the Mayflower was the Fortune. The Fortune arrived in November 1621 and only carried 37 passengers.

#17 of 34 Posted Nov-2 12:09 PM

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Burial Hill
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William Bradford's grave on Plymouth Burial Hill

Burial Hill is a hill containing a historic cemetery (burying ground) in Plymouth, Massachusetts. The burial ground is the burial site of several Pilgrims. The cemetery was founded in the 17th century.

The first Pilgrim burial ground was on nearby Cole's Hill in 1620-21. Originally, the Pilgrims constructed a fort on top of Burial Hill in 1621-22 (a reconstruction exists in nearby Plimoth Plantation). The Burial Hill fort also served as a meeting house for the colony and for First Parish Church in Plymouth until 1677. According to tradition, the first grave on Burial Hill was Pilgrim John Howland's.

First Parish Church currently meets in an 1899 church building at the base of Burial Hill on the town square, near where it first met in 1621.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial_Hill

#18 of 34 Posted Nov-2 1:27 PM

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http://cozybeach.com/mass-plymouth.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Rock

#19 of 34 Posted Nov-2 1:30 PM

From Tony Tiger Posts 2309 Last 10:31 AM
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Did the Pilgrims land on Plymouth Rock because they ran out of beer?
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2625/did-the-pilgrims-land-on-plymouth-rock-because-they-ran-out-of-beer

Dear Cecil:

Is it true the Mayflower landed at Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1620 because the ship ran out of beer? I have been told that barrels of beer were the most voluminous and important item in the hold because water couldn't stay drinkable on a ship for that long.

— James C., Massachusetts

You heard right, more or less: The Mayflower colonists decided to settle at Plymouth because they were running low on beer. In an age when so many have lost their moral compass, it's comforting to know that people in the old days had their priorities straight.

Pretty much everything you think you know about the Pilgrims is wrong (including their being called Pilgrims--that term didn't catch on until centuries later), so it's not surprising the beer angle slipped under the radar. Here's the story, assembled with the help of my doughty research assistant Bibliophage:

On November 9, 1620 [November 19 by modern reckoning], after 64 days at sea, the Mayflower sighted Cape Cod. You may inquire: What sort of idiot would sail across the north Atlantic at the height of storm season? The voyagers probably asked themselves the same question. They'd initially left Southampton, England, in August, but one of their two ships, the Speedwell, sprang a leak. Repair attempts failed, and by the time the travelers had consolidated themselves on the Mayflower, a month had passed. Then they spent an extra couple weeks under sail due to bad weather, arriving just in time for winter. That was problem one.

Problem two was that Cape Cod was not where the colonists were supposed to be. Their patent from the Virginia Company of London authorized them to establish a plantation between 38 and 41 degrees north latitude; the tip of Cape Cod was just north of 42 degrees. The group dutifully attempted to sail south, but shoals and contrary winds kiboshed that idea. Some now spoke of splitting up. Contrary to what we imagine, the colonists weren't united by religion. Of the 102 passengers, around 40 were Separatists (i.e., separated from the Church of England), a like number were regular folks recruited by the London merchants who underwrote the expedition, and the balance were hired men, servants, and so on. Finding themselves at odds in a legal no-man's-land, the colonists drafted the Mayflower Compact. The 41 who signed it on November 11 included no women but were otherwise pretty cool, consisting of Seps and non-Seps, masters and servants, all bound by the realization that has animated every republic since: If we don't stick together we're wolf chow.

The question remained exactly where the colonists should set up shop. Looking at the map now, you'd think a little bird would have twittered: Boston! You can found Boston! Apparently not. The choice came down to someplace called Anguum (probably near the present town of Ipswich), or else what the ship's navigator called "Thievish Harbor," in the direction of what's now known as Plymouth Bay. The latter being closer, the colonists headed there and found the location promising, in part because the land had been cleared earlier by Native American farmers who then conveniently died due to European-borne pestilence. The voyagers weren't disposed to be fussy: "We could not now take time for further search or consideration, our victuals being much spent, especially our beer, and it being now the 19th of December" (Mourt's Relation, 1622, commonly attributed to colonists William Bradford and Edward Winslow). Plymouth it was.

Beer was a dietary mainstay in those days. Chances are the beverage in question was "ship's beer," a not-very-alcoholic concoction that, along with the even weaker "small beer," was drunk in formidable quantities during the colonial era (upwards of a quart per day seems to have been a typical ration). Undoubtedly an advantage was that, unlike more perishable foodstuffs, ship's beer would keep during long voyages and, having been boiled, was likely purer than ordinary water.

The colonists used up their beer by Christmas. At first the ship's captain gave them a little out of the crew's supply, but when sickness, possibly scurvy, began felling the travelers (about half died that first winter), things got ugly. "As this calamity fell among the passengers that were to be left here to plant, and were hasted ashore and made to drink water that the seamen might have the more beer, and one in his sickness desiring but a small can of beer, it was answered that if he were their own father he should have none" (Bradford, History of Plymouth Plantation, circa 1650). The captain relented when his own men began getting sick too, evidently not wanting it to be known to history that, in addition to being late, lost, etc, he was the SOB who hogged the beer.

— Cecil Adams

#20 of 34 Posted Nov-2 1:34 PM

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http://www.worldfreeinternet.net/news/c15.htm

THE ORIGINS OF THANKSGIVING IN AMERICA
Plymouth Rock Landed on Us: The Truth About the Pilgrims

The Pilgrims were
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