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#1 of 60

     Posted Nov-5 9:08 AM   
honnybrown
 
From  honnybrown  Posts 540  Last 5:18 AM
To  All      [Msg # 159058.1 ]    
Both of our families came in town for an event.  This was my first time hosting this many people.  I made a maple-brined pork loin, an herb-brined chicken, maple-ginger roasted vegetables, macaroni and cheese, apple-ginger fizz, and my Mom brought some pies.  For breakfast on Wednesday, I made potatoes and bacon.

I started the brines on Thursday, and Tuesday morning made the vegetables.  Everything was on the table by the time my parents got here, Tuesday at noon.

It took a lot of planning, but everything came out perfectly!  That was my first time cooking for that many people (12).

My husband told his family that I'm a "gourmet chef," so I really had to put out my A game.  Everyone was impressed, even my parents!


I ran my first 3 miles on 9-4-05!

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#2 of 60

     Posted Nov-5 10:44 AM   
Susie
 
From  Susie  Posts 12718  Last Nov-24
To  honnybrown      [Msg # 159058.2 Message 159058.2 replying to 159058.1 159058.1 ]    
Congratulations on your first dinner party. It sounds like it turned out very nice. And what a nice compliment from your hubby!!
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#3 of 60

     Posted Nov-5 11:27 AM   
JudyG/Cooks
 
From  JudyG/Cooks  Posts 4544  Last Nov-24
To  honnybrown      [Msg # 159058.3 Message 159058.3 replying to 159058.1 159058.1 ]    

Congratulations on your first (?) big event for both families!

Your menu sounds perfect - except if you hang around here long enough you will definitely know Im MORE than anti brining - especially poultry! (G)

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#4 of 60

     Posted Nov-5 2:20 PM   
honnybrown
 
From  honnybrown  Posts 540  Last 5:18 AM
To  Susie      [Msg # 159058.4 Message 159058.4 replying to 159058.2 159058.2 ]    
THANKS!  My SIL wants me to host Thanksgiving!  That's not going to happen.  It's way too much work.  My Mom made it look so easy.


I ran my first 3 miles on 9-4-05!

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#5 of 60

     Posted Nov-5 2:25 PM   
honnybrown
 
From  honnybrown  Posts 540  Last 5:18 AM
To  JudyG/Cooks      [Msg # 159058.5 Message 159058.5 replying to 159058.3 159058.3 ]    
Yep, it was the first time both families got together.  They got along perfectly, which was amazing.

Brining works so well for me because my husband likes meat overcooked and I like it moist.  Brining makes us both happy. 


I ran my first 3 miles on 9-4-05!

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     Posted Nov-5 2:26 PM   
Susie
 
From  Susie  Posts 12718  Last Nov-24
To  honnybrown      [Msg # 159058.6 Message 159058.6 replying to 159058.4 159058.4 ]    
Tell them you would host if everyone bring a major dish, so you only have to cook, one thing. Also tell them you'll expect them to do the cleanup!! Otherwise, let someone else do it <G>
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#7 of 60

     Posted Nov-5 9:43 PM   
JudyG/Cooks
 
From  JudyG/Cooks  Posts 4544  Last Nov-24
To  honnybrown      [Msg # 159058.7 Message 159058.7 replying to 159058.5 159058.5 ]    
If it works for you, great. That is all that is important.
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#8 of 60

     Posted Nov-6 3:53 PM   
Charles C
 
From  Charles C  Posts 3766  Last Nov-23
To  honnybrown      [Msg # 159058.8 Message 159058.8 replying to 159058.1 159058.1 ]    
I'm glad it turned out so well!

I've cooked for that many at several Christmas dinners but the menu was much simpler. <s>
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#9 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 7:00 AM   
honnybrown
 
From  honnybrown  Posts 540  Last 5:18 AM
To  Susie      [Msg # 159058.9 Message 159058.9 replying to 159058.6 159058.6 ]    
I love that idea.


I ran my first 3 miles on 9-4-05!

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#10 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 7:04 AM   
honnybrown
 
From  honnybrown  Posts 540  Last 5:18 AM
To  Charles C      [Msg # 159058.10 Message 159058.10 replying to 159058.8 159058.8 ]    
Last week my Mom's sister asked me if I had ever cooked for that many people.  I said no, and if my Mom told her that they all went to a really nice restaurant, she'll know what happened.


I ran my first 3 miles on 9-4-05!

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#11 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 7:07 AM   
digicook
 
From  digicook  Posts 1838  Last Nov-24
To  JudyG/Cooks      [Msg # 159058.11 Message 159058.11 replying to 159058.3 159058.3 ]    
I don't recall reading any anti-brining posts from you before.

Would you care to elaborate?

Isabel
http://www.pbase.com/isabel95
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#12 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 8:11 AM   
digicook
 
From  digicook  Posts 1838  Last Nov-24
To  honnybrown      [Msg # 159058.12 Message 159058.12 replying to 159058.4 159058.4 ]    
That's what you get for doing such a good job!

In our family we began a tradition last year of celebrating "Thanksmas".  We figured it was better to get together between Thanksgiving and Christmas to avoid traffic snarls.

We're in Western North Carolina and our kids are in Philly and Long Island so getting together is a big deal.

We each make something and gather in my son's home.  He's quite the cook, having been an assistant manager in a college cafeteria before he decided that it would be better to finish college than work 60 hours a week in a kitchen.

My daughter loves cooking too.

It's nice to share the burden.

Isabel

Attached is a picture of a plate of "leftovers" my son prepared for me the day after our Thanksmas dinner.




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#13 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 8:29 AM   
JudyG/Cooks
 
From  JudyG/Cooks  Posts 4544  Last Nov-24
To  digicook      [Msg # 159058.13 Message 159058.13 replying to 159058.11 159058.11 ]    (Unread)

I have always stated how I hate brining! Maybe not recently, but I suppose one could search and find my rants! It goes back to the first time I ever heard about brining - in an article in Cooks Illustrated for chicken. I thought it was nuts but tried it - and we had to throw the cooked bird out! I followed the recipe exactly, rinsed the bird, etc. but the salt was disgusting.

Then, at a cooking class from Mario Batali, we were served brined turkey - and no one could eat it! The bird and gravy reeked of salt. Mario tried to claim it was because the bird had been cooked the day before. Give me a break!

A couple of years ago, while at the Food and Wine weekend in Aspen, I asked Jacques Pepin what he thought of brining and were there any tricks I might have missed - and all he said was why brine - unless it is for something like sausage that requires it.

I buy the best birds, pork or whatever that I can find - to me that is the great secret of having a good roast chicken or turkey. I have been roasting turkeys and chickens for 50 years - and quite happily and successfully without a brine. Maybe if someone has a very substandard bird getting all that salt, etc. into it might help make it juicier, but not for me.

When I was first married, I took cooking classes from two terrific teachers- Michael Field and Richard Grausman - and I have and still refer to their books. When I lived in France, I decided one of the glories of French food is a perfectly cooked roast chicken - no brining needed - and I like to think I can at least do this!

Ok - I will get off my anti-brine soapbox now. If someone wants to brine and doesnt get an oversalted bird or piece of meat - fine. Go for it. But I have noticed even most recipes say you can't use the juices from a roast bird for gravy if you brine as they will be too salty!

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#14 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 9:39 AM   
JudyC
 
From  JudyC  Posts 7449  Last Nov-24
To  digicook      [Msg # 159058.14 Message 159058.14 replying to 159058.11 159058.11 ]    (Unread)
You're kidding... right????


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#15 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 12:42 PM   
JudyG/Cooks
 
From  JudyG/Cooks  Posts 4544  Last Nov-24
To  JudyC      [Msg # 159058.15 Message 159058.15 replying to 159058.14 159058.14 ]    
If she wasn't she will know now how I feel! LOL!
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#16 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 1:05 PM   
ShirleyD
 
From  ShirleyD  Posts 10056  Last Nov-24
To  JudyG/Cooks      [Msg # 159058.16 Message 159058.16 replying to 159058.15 159058.15 ]    
You've probably had meat that was brined when eating out and never knew it. We were out not too long ago and DH had a pork chop (it was huge) that the menu said had been brined in (I can't remember). They don't necessarily have to tell you on the menu that something has been brined.
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#17 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 1:58 PM   
Diane/ Seattle
 
From  Diane/ Seattle  Posts 9137  Last Nov-17
To  honnybrown      [Msg # 159058.17 Message 159058.17 replying to 159058.1 159058.1 ]    

Isn't it fun to cook for people who really enjoy eating your food?  Congrats!

I usually cook for one or for 13.  Rarely in between.

If you get talked into Thanksgiving, I have a recipe from this site for make-ahead mashed potatoes, I developed my own make-ahead (and freeze) turkey gravy, we have a simple but delicious recipe for carrots that are cooked ahead and nuked at the last minute.

Also, we eliminated rolls and salad from the dinner since they weren't necessary and just put too much food on the table.

The hard part for me is it has to be a sit-down dinner and that's a lot of house/dishes/linens, etc. prep.

My sister has Thanksgiving; I take the gravy and sweet and sour red cabbage (made ahead) and this year a berry pie (also baked ahead).  My mother preps the turkey and does the centerpiece. The mother-in-law makes cranberry sherbet.

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#18 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 2:00 PM   
Diane/ Seattle
 
From  Diane/ Seattle  Posts 9137  Last Nov-17
To  JudyC      [Msg # 159058.18 Message 159058.18 replying to 159058.14 159058.14 ]    
HA!
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#19 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 3:50 PM   
Susie
 
From  Susie  Posts 12718  Last Nov-24
To  honnybrown      [Msg # 159058.19 Message 159058.19 replying to 159058.9 159058.9 ]    

I thought it sounded practical <BG>

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#20 of 60

     Posted Nov-7 3:54 PM   
Susie
 
From  Susie  Posts 12718  Last Nov-24
To  JudyG/Cooks      [Msg # 159058.20 Message 159058.20 replying to 159058.15 159058.15 ]    
I was surprised she asked too <ggg> I thought your anti-brining messages were legend!  I've never brined either, and never will. My favorite oven fried chicken calls for brining, but I just skip that step.
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