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Do you have an e-book reader?

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Marte Brengle
by :   Marte Brengle
Oct-24

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Latest :   Nov-9
Q: Do you have an e-book reader?




#2 of 15

     Posted Oct-24 2:36 PM   
Marte Brengle
 
From  Marte Brengle  Posts 41  Last Nov-24
To  All      [Msg # 90429.2 Message 90429.2 replying to 90429.1 90429.1 ]    
While I don't have an e-book reader and have no plans to buy one, I do carry around a library of public-domain classics on my Palm Tungsten PDA.  I like the convenience of never being without something to read in the doctors' waiting rooms.

But so far I can't see any particular advantage to buying an expensive, single-purpose e-book reader.  What do you all think?

infmom.net

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     Posted Oct-24 3:41 PM   
4merCL
 
From  4merCL  Posts 169  Last Nov-24
To  Marte Brengle      [Msg # 90429.3 Message 90429.3 replying to 90429.2 90429.2 ]    

>>  But so far I can't see any particular advantage to buying an expensive, single-purpose e-book reader.  What do you all think?  <<

I have to agree there. I see no particular virtue [for the consumer] to a multiplicity of single-purpose devices when a general purpose one [with suitable apps, as needed] can fulfill the several roles.

Best regards,  4merCL

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     Posted Oct-24 4:10 PM   
Marte Brengle
 
From  Marte Brengle  Posts 41  Last Nov-24
To  4merCL      [Msg # 90429.4 Message 90429.4 replying to 90429.3 90429.3 ]    
One argument I've seen in favor of e-book readers is that the screen is much larger.  But then, the price tag is too.  :)

I've used MobiPocket Reader for a long time (it was the only reader software that would run on my Handspring) and I was interested to see that the Kindle uses that format as well.  I have not inquired as to whether Kindle format books would be readable by the MobiPocket Reader, though.

There are so many public domain classics out there free for the downloading that in all this time I've only purchased one e-book, a Spanish/English dictionary.

infmom.net

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     Posted Oct-24 6:06 PM   
D.F. Yriart
 
From  D.F. Yriart  Posts 19  Last Nov-24
To  Marte Brengle      [Msg # 90429.5 Message 90429.5 replying to 90429.2 90429.2 ]    
Marte,

>> I do carry around a library of public-domain classics on my Palm Tungsten PDA.  I like the convenience of never being without something to read in the doctors' waiting rooms. <<

I like to read public domain and creative commons books from Feedbooks with WordPlayer on my Android phone. I acquire books over the air. Great for reading on the bus and Metro on the way to and from work. Phone is a T-Mobile G1.

The Feedbooks web page shows a Kindle... but there is an API for connecting, so you just have to write a reader and use the API.

I don't worry about this, WordPlayer just connects to the library and I get books. <g>

Wow, I just looked at the formats supported by WordPlayer, they include my Palm books and many more!

WordPlayer also offers Calibre ebook management, which is cross platform and provides a way to load books from your PC. Calibre is also supported on Kindle. I guess I have a Kindle without having a Kindle. <g> Here's where you get Calibre.

I'm in commuter reader heaven!!

Doug Yriart
Linux Rocks!


Edited Oct-24   by  D.F. Yriart
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     Posted Oct-24 7:30 PM   
Marte Brengle
 
From  Marte Brengle  Posts 41  Last Nov-24
To  D.F. Yriart      [Msg # 90429.6 Message 90429.6 replying to 90429.5 90429.5 ]    
I have never looked into whether, or how, I could connect the Palm to the internet.  :)

infmom.net

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#7 of 15

     Posted Oct-24 7:38 PM   
4merCL
 
From  4merCL  Posts 169  Last Nov-24
To  Marte Brengle      [Msg # 90429.7 Message 90429.7 replying to 90429.4 90429.4 ]    

>>  One argument I've seen in favor of e-book readers is that the screen is much larger.  But then, the price tag is too.  :)  <<

The screen in much larger than what?

In the realm of general purpose devices, mentioning laptops first since we are in the Laptop Forum, there are some up to 17 inch (diagonal) or more. Is the Kindle larger than that?

Moving on to general purpose desktop computers, one can readily find flat-screen monitors certainly larger than the Kindle, and indeed, capable of displaying two pages side by side [just like a "real" book].

Price tag?  If one already has the GP device, possibly wants to upgrade to a large screen monitor, I've seen some at a $159 price point. I've no idea what the single purpose Kindle is priced at.

Best regards,  4merCL

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#8 of 15

     Posted Oct-24 8:30 PM   
Judy M.
 
From  Judy M.  Posts 402  Last Nov-24
To  4merCL      [Msg # 90429.8 Message 90429.8 replying to 90429.7 90429.7 ]    

You are missing the point. A laptop does not fit into a purse or pocket; an e-book reader does. Your desktop isn't portable. You aren't going to take it on vacation loaded with a dozen books.

An e-book has a larger screen than a PDA. I haven't used one, but it's supposed to allow a more book-like experience than a PDA.

I can see good reasons for having one, in particular the ability to store MANY books in a device the size of one book. As I look around our small house, I see bookshelves lining every wall and every nook and cranny. I'd love to get some of those books into a small device, and if we move to a senior community (as we'd like to), we'd have even less space for books.

The price of the Kindle and other e-book readers is too high right now, but it will probably become more reasonable in the next couple of years.
--Judy M.


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#9 of 15

     Posted Oct-24 8:42 PM   
Marte Brengle
 
From  Marte Brengle  Posts 41  Last Nov-24
To  4merCL      [Msg # 90429.9 Message 90429.9 replying to 90429.7 90429.7 ]    
The screens on e-book readers are roughly the same size as the pages of a paperback book.  The screens on PDAs vary in size, but they're generally not much bigger than 2 x 3 inches.  (I just measured the screen on my Palm Tungsten E2 and it's 2.25" square.)

As Judy pointed out, an e-book reader is much more portable than any kind of computer.  Although I think the long-gone Toshiba Libretto might have been small enough and portable enough to work OK in that regard.  It wasn't easy to use as a computer.  :)

I personally do not like reading books on my desktop or laptop computers.  I've been reading since I was three, and have yet to find a computer that's got anywhere near the appeal of a real book.

infmom.net

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     Posted Oct-25 7:58 AM   
4merCL
 
From  4merCL  Posts 169  Last Nov-24
To  Judy M.      [Msg # 90429.10 Message 90429.10 replying to 90429.8 90429.8 ]    

Marte Msg #2  >>  But so far I can't see any particular advantage to buying an expensive, single-purpose e-book reader.  What do you all think?  <<

Judy M >>  You are missing the point. A laptop does not fit into a purse or pocket; an e-book reader does. Your desktop isn't portable.  <<

Judy -- If Marte, who initiated this thread, did not cite "purse or pocketability", I hardly think that I am missing the point. Indeed, the two factors that she did  cite were "expensive" and "single-purpose," and to those, I have responded.

Now, if you wish to introduce a new point, in terms of device dimensions and portability, by all means do so. While doing so, you might cite for the information of forum members the actual overall and screen dimensions and price range of your favorite e-book reader. I will confess to having neither owned nor seen an actual e-book reader, whether Kindle or another brand.

Best regards,  4merCL

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#11 of 15

     Posted Oct-25 5:46 PM   
D.F. Yriart
 
From  D.F. Yriart  Posts 19  Last Nov-24
To  4merCL      [Msg # 90429.11 Message 90429.11 replying to 90429.10 90429.10 ]    
CL,

>> Judy -- If Marte, who initiated this thread, did not cite "purse or pocketability", I hardly think that I am missing the point <<

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tiding... you HAVE TOTALLY MISSED THE POINT. An ebook reader such as a Kindle, or a Sony reader, or Barnes and Noble's new Nook is by definition portable and pocketable. Each device is about the size of a small hardback book. Maybe smaller.

The point of an ebook reader is to carry around something similar in size to a book. The readers don't have computer style LCD displays. They use "electronic paper" that is designed to mimic the appearance of ink on paper. The reading experience is much like reading ink printed on paper... I've tried my son's Sony reader.

Doug Yriart
Linux Rocks!

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     Posted Oct-25 8:26 PM   
4merCL
 
From  4merCL  Posts 169  Last Nov-24
To  D.F. Yriart      [Msg # 90429.12 Message 90429.12 replying to 90429.11 90429.11 ]    

Well, excuuuuuse me.

If "the point" of Marte's Msg. #2 was the totally unstated physical dimensions of the device and (by my count this would be a second point) the totally unstated display screen technology .....

Well, pardon me for responding to the explicitly stated point that she made:

>>  But so far I can't see any particular advantage to buying an expensive, single-purpose e-book reader.  What do you all think?  <<

You know, it's kinda like baseball, the batter swings at the pitch that comes, not some other one that the pitcher might have been thinking about before he released the ball, and certainly not the one that might be proposed by a sidelines spectator after the fact.

BTW, my 10 inch (diagonal) netbook is only slightly larger (in footprint), and is thinner, than a print edition of an Arthur Hailey novel on my bookshelf. There is an 8.5 inch version of this netbook, but I don't happen to know how much reduction in overall footprint it would represent.

Best regards,  4merCL


Edited Oct-25   by  4merCL
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     Posted Oct-26 1:14 AM   
Judy M.
 
From  Judy M.  Posts 402  Last Nov-24
To  4merCL      [Msg # 90429.13 Message 90429.13 replying to 90429.10 90429.10 ]    

The topic of the poll is "Do you have an e-book reader?" An e-book is a specific device about the size of a paperback book that can contain hundreds of books in its internal storage. The poll does not ask about any sort of electronic device on which it's possible to read, but on a specific device.

So you do indeed miss the point. If you want to know specific dimensions, google is your friend. Otherwise trust us when we say an e-book reader is about the size of a paperback book.
--Judy M.


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#14 of 15

     Posted Oct-26 7:27 AM   
4merCL
 
From  4merCL  Posts 169  Last Nov-24
To  Judy M.      [Msg # 90429.14 Message 90429.14 replying to 90429.13 90429.13 ]    

Judy M >> The topic of the poll is "Do you have an e-book reader?" <<

Marte Msg #2 >> I do carry around a library of public-domain classics on my Palm Tungsten PDA. ...

But so far I can't see any particular advantage to buying an expensive, single-purpose e-book reader. What do you all think? <<

D. F. Yriart (responding to Msg #2) >>
I like to read public domain and creative commons books from Feedbooks with WordPlayer on my Android phone. <<

Hello --

If Marte can make a reference to her PDA, and D.F. respond, not to the poll question at Msg. #1, but to Marte's Msg. #2 and introduce his Android phone, both without being chided as "clueless" because their posts went beyond the original title question asked at Msg. #1....

Then I fail to see why my Msg responding the Marte's specific question asked at Msg #2, in the specfiic context of "expensive" and "single purpose" marks me as "not getting the point," as though there were only one.

ADDENDUM:  Now, is everybody ready to get back to the general topic of readers, their pros and cons, and alternatives to them.....and off of pointing fingers at other forum participants and labeling them "clueless" or other words to that effect?

 

 

Best regards,  4merCL


Edited Oct-26   by  4merCL
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     Posted Oct-26 5:06 PM   
D.F. Yriart
 
From  D.F. Yriart  Posts 19  Last Nov-24
To  4merCL      [Msg # 90429.15 Message 90429.15 replying to 90429.14 90429.14 ]    
CL,

>> Then I fail to see why my Msg responding the Marte's specific question asked at Msg #2, in the specfiic context of "expensive" and "single purpose" marks me as "not getting the point," as though there were only one. <<

You're still missing the point. "Book reader" is a term of art that describes a specific class of electronic devices whose primary purpose is reading electronic book while providing an experience very similar to reading a real book. You talked about devices that are no where near similar.

Marte and I introduced devices that are also hand held and provide very similar experiences to a book reader. In fact, I pointed out that WordPlayer uses the same communications protocols as the Amazon Kindle to obtain books from some of the same sources as the Kindle in the same formats as the Kindle.

I think your alternatives missed the point.

BTW, book readers seem to be expanding a little in scope. The Barnes and Noble Nook, and, I believe the Kindle 2, can store and play music to listen to while reading your books. But the shouldn't be confused with the power and organization of a dedicated MP3 player like an iPod.

While I like the idea of carrying a single device for everything in my mobile life. I could be happy with three:
  1. Android phone for the Internet in the palm of your hand experience, and it's a phone <g>
  2. Book reader, because it's such a comfortable format and you can carry around a library of hundreds of books (maybe thousands), and get more wherever you are
  3. iPod Nano for music.
Each mobile device is optimized for some very specific tasks, and not compromised by trying to do others that aren't closely related -- although I do confess to watching and sharing YouTube videos on the Android phone. <g>

Doug Yriart
Linux Rocks!

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