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Open Source

The open source savior?

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     Posted Nov-2 4:12 PM   
D.F. Yriart (Sysop)
 
From  D.F. Yriart (Sysop)  Posts 525  Last 8:47 AM
To  All      [Msg # 129665.1 ]    
Who will free us from Microsoft's proprietary grasp CNET blogger Matt Asay asks? His answer may surprise you. It's not Red Hat, or Sun or IBM.

He writes
Google, not Red Hat or Sun, appears to be the long-awaited redeemer of both personal computers and servers, and has even staked a credible claim in the mobile world, as well. Google achieves this, in part, by writing copious lines of open-source code, but pays for this "generosity" with insanely profitable proprietary services, services that have long appealed to consumers but increasingly appeal to enterprises, too.
Is it a win-win that we benefit from lots of high quality open source code if the price is to drive us towards Google's proprietary services?

Perhaps we're getting what we deserve. Asay points out that
In an ideal world, open-source software companies would thrive by simply giving away lots of code, and having enterprises and government organizations serve their long-term interests by paying for support.

We don't live in that world. Some organizations do buy support for open-source software, of course, though many others do not, and some only pay long enough to become self-sufficient whereupon they dump their support contracts, as former CTO of NBC iVillage Jon Williams once declared.

Do you take the software and run, or would you pay for support? How do you think open source can grow and thrive?


Doug Yriart
Linux Rocks!

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     Posted Nov-2 7:17 PM   
Frank B. (Forum Janitor)
 
From  Frank B. (Forum Janitor)  Posts 4689  Last 9:03 AM
To  D.F. Yriart (Sysop)      [Msg # 129665.2 Message 129665.2 replying to 129665.1 129665.1 ]    
Doug:

>Do you take the software and run, or would you pay for support?<

Mostly I do the former, but I came very close to paying for support from Canonical last year when I moved the rest of my business machines to Kubuntu.  I may buy support next spring, when 10.04 comes out.

The problem I find with support is that it is either too light, or too heavy.  SuSE offers 30 day support (IIRC) when you buy a shrink-wrapped package, but it is primarily just for installation.  Canonical offers support on everything in their repository, but on a per machine basis.  If you are having a problem with another machine, too bad, unless you want to buy support on every machine, and that adds up quickly.  Other support packages are more for enterprise stuff, and way out of my league.

If there were a per incident support package, say $50 per incident, I could handle that.  I would think that many would be happy to pay rather than waste time.  Would they make a profit then on volume?  I don't know.

However, Open Source, for all its virtues, has yet to show a really good business model at the consumer level.  I don't know what the solution is on that.

I don't see an issue with what Google is presently doing.  If they can offer a service that people want, then even if the profit is insane, more power to them.  Does not Apple (and others) do the same?  The iPhone has to be a major money-maker, and it is proprietary.  iPod's cost WAY less to make than they are charging for them.  These too are closed products.  Google is at least contributing back a lot of open code.

Frank.

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     Posted Nov-3 6:30 AM   
Ben Cobb
 
From  Ben Cobb  Posts 847  Last Nov-24
To  D.F. Yriart (Sysop)      [Msg # 129665.3 Message 129665.3 replying to 129665.1 129665.1 ]    
I don't mind sending off some money every now and then. I have a subscription to Slackware. But the raft of other programs escape me (should I donate to hydrogen-music.org as I use that drum machine to help me practice the piano and what about all the underlying system programs that are being actively updated).

Have only a couple of times sent some money for a program I started using.


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"Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
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     Posted Nov-3 10:42 AM   
D.F. Yriart (Sysop)
 
From  D.F. Yriart (Sysop)  Posts 525  Last 8:47 AM
To  Ben Cobb      [Msg # 129665.4 Message 129665.4 replying to 129665.3 129665.3 ]    
Ben,

>> I have a subscription to Slackware. But the raft of other programs escape me (should I donate to hydrogen-music.org as I use that drum machine to help me practice the piano and what about all the underlying system programs that are being actively updated). <<

Very interesting question! Which projects are worthy and win support, which aren't? What makes one project more worthy than another?

One way to address this question might be to use one of the mainstream Linux distributions and buy support from the distributors. The mainstream distributions contribute to many, many projects either in terms of money or support or code. By mainstream I mean Red Hat and Novell/SuSE and Canonical (Ubuntu), not Fedora or OpenSuSE, the community based feeders for the commercially distributed and supported distros.

Doug Yriart
Linux Rocks!

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