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Lynne/Wizop
by :   Lynne/Wizop
Sep-21

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Q: Are you worried about global warming?





#2 of 9

     Posted Sep-21 9:53 AM   
Starmist
 
From  Starmist  Posts 2664  Last Nov-18
To  Lynne/Wizop      [Msg # 67319.2 Message 67319.2 replying to 67319.1 67319.1 ]    
Of course I'm worried - I'm a Geologist, I know these things.

Hugs, Frieda
If you can't stand the heat don't tickle the dragon.

Edited Sep-21   by  Starmist
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     Posted Sep-23 6:30 AM   
WhiteOak, SL Wicca/Pagan
 
From  WhiteOak, SL Wicca/Pagan  Posts 70  Last Nov-3
To  Lynne/Wizop      [Msg # 67319.3 Message 67319.3 replying to 67319.1 67319.1 ]    (Unread)
Of course: I'm a lifelong environmentalist!      Blessed Be!   WhiteOak
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     Posted Sep-23 6:56 PM   
Tegan
 
From  Tegan  Posts 2116  Last Nov-21
To  Lynne/Wizop      [Msg # 67319.4 Message 67319.4 replying to 67319.1 67319.1 ]    (Unread)

Yes, Global Warming exists, but no I'm not worried about it. Let's face it, the earth has been warming for millions of years. My community exists because of global warming. Are humans helping to haste it, probably, but not to the degree the media and Mr Gore would have us believe. There is a large portion of the scientific community that believe and have proof to back up the fact that much of what is being made of global warming is complete hype. So, yes, we do have to be more prudent in caring for Mother Earth, but no Chicken Little, the sky is not falling.

Tegan

"Courage is faith in action, and the reward for courage is wisdom"

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     Posted Sep-24 8:31 AM   
Starmist
 
From  Starmist  Posts 2664  Last Nov-18
To  Tegan      [Msg # 67319.5 Message 67319.5 replying to 67319.4 67319.4 ]    
Sorry, Chicken Little is right, the sky is falling.  No reputable scientist will say otherwise.

Hugs, Frieda
If you can't stand the heat don't tickle the dragon.
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     Posted Sep-25 7:38 AM   
Tegan
 
From  Tegan  Posts 2116  Last Nov-21
To  Starmist      [Msg # 67319.6 Message 67319.6 replying to 67319.5 67319.5 ]    
There are climate changes, on that scientists agree. It's the cause that is debatable and as many reputable scientists disagree with the popular Celebrity view as unreputable scientists are on Gore and company's side.
Tegan

"Courage is faith in action, and the reward for courage is wisdom"

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     Posted Sep-25 11:11 AM   
Starmist
 
From  Starmist  Posts 2664  Last Nov-18
To  Tegan      [Msg # 67319.7 Message 67319.7 replying to 67319.6 67319.6 ]    
As a geologist I know many reputable scientists, including climatologists, and everyone I know agrees that human machinations are responsible for global warming.  The only "scientists" I know who disagree are government or industry related, tainted at best.  Drastic measures are required within the next few years, after that it doesn't matter.  Unless we take action now we are in for an era of unprecedented heat.  We may survive but much of life on Earth won't.

Hugs, Frieda
If you can't stand the heat don't tickle the dragon.
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     Posted Sep-25 9:18 PM   
Tegan
 
From  Tegan  Posts 2116  Last Nov-21
To  Starmist      [Msg # 67319.8 Message 67319.8 replying to 67319.7 67319.7 ]    

You say that the only scientists you know of that disagree are either associated with the government or industry. I see many scientist on the side of government who do claim global warming is an immense threat. The government is using their findings to pack House bills with money for research to combat global warming and raise our taxes in the process. That wouldn't be such a bad thing if the money actually went for that purpose instead of becoming re-directed pork. Industry, well, reversing the effects of global warming and manufacturing of Eco-friendly goods has become an industry of and it's itself. I know, because my company supplies some these manufactures with their components. The real shame with the Eco friendly industry is so few people can afford their products. Old school manufacturing is also jumping on the bandwagon in droves and is being financially rewarded by the government for doing so (our money again). You say that something needs to be done. How about the fact that the levels of chlorine from CFC's have been significantly reduced this past decade? How about the fact that the hole in the ozone layer above Antarctica has shrunk significantly and is predicted to be completely gone by 2050? And that prediction is based on only what we've been doing for the last 10/15 years. If the prices of zero emission cars, wind turbines and alternative fuels drop to levels where everyone could obtain them, pollution and ozone damage would disappear quicker. But, I doubt that will happen because companies may actually loose money if there's no pollution, and people don't want the windmills mucking up the scenery, so scratch that idea.

Scientists, reputable or not, are never going to agree on this or anything else. Science is not so much about proving theory as it is about disproving it, so we are going to "enjoy" this debate in the scientific community for years to come as well as politicians and businesses attempting to profit off of it. While I will continue my part to care for our planet and not injure it, I will also continue to have faith in the extreme healing powers of Mother Nature. And if my little island shrinks, I'll move to the interior of the mainland.

Tegan

"Courage is faith in action, and the reward for courage is wisdom"

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     Posted Sep-26 10:30 AM   
Starmist
 
From  Starmist  Posts 2664  Last Nov-18
To  Tegan      [Msg # 67319.9 Message 67319.9 replying to 67319.8 67319.8 ]    
Ozone is not the problem, all the "greenhouse gases" are.  Until we cut COemissions and learn to sequester atmospheric CO2 , methane, etc. we are in danger of tipping the planet into permanent hot mode.   Greenland and Antarctica ice cores tell us that that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is higher now than it has ever been.

Government scientists during the Bush years were forbidden publishing papers favorable to global warming.  My friends in USGS told me it was worth their jobs to even mention global warming in print.  I spent many years in the petroleum industry and my friends there tell me that the "green revolution" is an advertising ploy.  Behind the scenes it's business as usual, drill, produce and promote use of petroleum products.  It's no accident that BP and Exxon/Mobil remain the world's largest companies.  Laws or no laws they find ways to pump money to politicians. 

Hugs, Frieda
If you can't stand the heat don't tickle the dragon.
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