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#1 of 107 Posted Nov-1 5:38 PM

From Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo Posts 42 Last Nov-24
To All [Msg # 164717.1 ]

Hi,

This barebones kit along with the Video card which I think will serve my needs, and the monitor are what I believe is what I will purchase in a few days. Anyone have any thoughts on this setup? It's not a screamer but I think it will do the job and is modern, and faster that what I have now.

Intel Core i5 Socket 1156 Barebone Kit - Intel DP55WB MOBO, Intel Core I5 750 CPU, 4GB DDR3, 750GB HDD, Apex Case, 750 Watt PSU at TigerDirect.com $509.00

XFX Radeon HD 5770 Video Card - 1GB GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0, CrossFireX Ready, Dual DVI, Display Port, HDMI at TigerDirect.com
$74.99

Viewsonic VX2433wm 24" Class Widescreen HD LCD Monitor - 1920 x 1080, 20000:1 Dynamic, 2ms GTG, HDMI, DVI, VGA, ECO Mode, Tilt Stand, w/ Speakers at TigerDirect.com $199.99

The total cost if it stays the same is not bad, but the cost could change?

Scott Evans
MS-Internet Explorer forum
Microsoft MVP - IE

#2 of 107 Posted Nov-1 6:41 PM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1978 Last 2:18 AM
To Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo [Msg # 164717.2 164717.1 ]

Decent CPU and MB, should work well...

Note that Intel motherboards are ALL SATA - no IDE port on them and most likely ALL USB - no PS/2 ports either, in case you were planning on re-using parts (I did not see any Optical drive in the parts list)...

#3 of 107 Posted Nov-1 8:45 PM

From Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo Posts 42 Last Nov-24
To Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) [Msg # 164717.3 164717.2 ]

Hi Dale,

That's one I forgot, the optical drive. I suppose this has to be SATA. Yes no PS2 port for a mouse or keyboard. My current mouse uses USB and so does the keyboard. And no floppy drive. :-(

Scott Evans
MS-Internet Explorer forum
Microsoft MVP - IE

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#4 of 107 Posted Nov-1 9:08 PM

From Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET Posts 558 Last 11:22 AM
To Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo [Msg # 164717.4 164717.3 ]

If you have problems in finding a SATA Optical drive -- I haven't checked recently -- you could probably find a PCI card with an IDE controller on it and use that -- or get an external Optical drive and use USB. THis would allow you to use the optical drive with other computers including eg netbooks that notably come without them normally.

Hugh

#5 of 107 Posted Nov-1 9:56 PM

From Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo Posts 42 Last Nov-24
To Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET [Msg # 164717.5 164717.4 ]

Hi Hugh,

I think this DVD-RW/CD-RW will work and it is SATA.

MSI DH-24AAS-17
Internal DVD Writer - DVD+R 24X, DVD-R 24X, DVD+RW 8X, DVD-RW 6X, DVD-RAM 12X, CD-R 48X, CD-RW 32X, SATA. This also is offered by TigerDirect.com. 39.99

But I will still will have to live without a Floppy drive. Or buy an external one (USB).

Scott Evans
MS-Internet Explorer forum
Microsoft MVP - IE

#6 of 107 Posted Nov-1 9:58 PM

From Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET Posts 558 Last 11:22 AM
To Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo [Msg # 164717.6 164717.5 ]

Fine if you found one at a reasonable price. When I got mine Plextor only had the one SATA drive so I got that but when I wanted another the next generation model was only IDE but that was a few years ago.

Hugh

#7 of 107 Posted Nov-1 11:59 PM

From Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo Posts 42 Last Nov-24
To Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET [Msg # 164717.7 164717.6 ]

Hi Hugh,

I see alot of DVD drives at TigerDirect, but if they are SATA, IDE or USB? And then there are external and internal drives. I sort of like the old days when everything just about was internal. But as long as what I want or need is avaiable, I will be happy. Heck fter I buy and build this computer it will be getting old. But it is better than what I have. But what I have still works. I just want something that is modern.

Scott Evans
MS-Internet Explorer forum
Microsoft MVP - IE

#8 of 107 Posted Nov-2 2:23 AM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1978 Last 2:18 AM
To Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo [Msg # 164717.8 164717.3 ]

>>That's one I forgot, the optical drive. I suppose this has to be SATA.

There are many SATA optical drives on the market - I use an LG and a LiteON one in my production box. Both work fine...

>>no floppy drive

Windows 7 does not retuire a floppy from drivers - it can use thumb drives for that. I doubt the floppy will be missed...

#9 of 107 Posted Nov-2 11:25 AM

From Ronald McDonald Posts 553 Last Nov-23
To Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo [Msg # 164717.9 164717.1 ]

Hi Scott,

I found the same system at tigerdirect.ca for $589. Very good price. But, I could not locate that motherboard # on the intel website.

Ron

#10 of 107 Posted Nov-2 1:09 PM

From Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo Posts 42 Last Nov-24
To Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) [Msg # 164717.10 164717.8 ]

Hi Dale,

As far as the floppy drive. I've always had one, though it is rarely used anymore except when I need to basically install WinXP. As I need to install the drivers for the Promise controller card I have installed. Vista also need this to be done.

With this new computer, this would not be needed. I suppose I will eventually buy an external floppy drive. Just so I have a floppy drive. I suppose a sort of new to computers person who never had or used a floppy drive would never miss or need one. I still have many many things on floppy disks, if they could be used on a Windows 7 computer? I suppose many will run on 32-bit Windows 7. But if they would work on a 64-bit Windows 7, I don't know. Most of these programs are old games that I have not used for years.

Scott Evans
MS-Internet Explorer forum
Microsoft MVP - IE

#11 of 107 Posted Nov-2 1:50 PM

From Ronald McDonald Posts 553 Last Nov-23
To Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) [Msg # 164717.11 164717.8 ]

Dale,

Isn't a diskette drive needed to do a flash BIOS upgrade? Or, do the new BIOSes have an alternative solution?

Ron

#12 of 107 Posted Nov-2 2:12 PM

From Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo Posts 42 Last Nov-24
To Ronald McDonald [Msg # 164717.12 164717.9 ]

Hi Ron,

I found it using the search engine BING. (Microsofts search). I like the Intel® Desktop Board DP55WB Product Guide, in pdf format. I have downloaded it. Everything is in it including how to update the BIOS from a download to the hard drive, to a USB flash drive. This from http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/

All this is in the manual (product guide)
=========================

Intel® Desktop Board DP55WB
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dp55wb/

Intel® Desktop Board DP55WB
Product Guide (nice)
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18131/eng/DP55WB_ProductGuide01_English.pdf

Intel's cheap P55 board is DP55WB
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12596&Itemid=1
=========================
Search engine BING (Microsoft)
http://www.bing.com/search?q=Intel+DP55WB&first=1&FORM=PERE
(more finds than I want to count)
----------------------- -------
This barebones kit was $499.99 with a $10.00 rebate. This month the rebate is gone so it is $509.00. USA
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5307927&CatId=4910

Scott Evans
MS-Internet Explorer forum
Microsoft MVP - IE

Edited Nov-2 by Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo

Edited Nov-2 by Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo

#13 of 107 Posted Nov-2 2:59 PM

From Ronald McDonald Posts 553 Last Nov-23
To Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo [Msg # 164717.13 164717.12 ]

Sorry Scott,

I found it as well. I thought it ended with a "D" instead of a "B". My mistake.

Unfortunately, that won't do for me as I need more than one conventional PCI slot. TigerDirect mentions 2.

Thanks,

Ronald

#14 of 107 Posted Nov-2 3:48 PM

From Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET Posts 558 Last 11:22 AM
To Ronald McDonald [Msg # 164717.14 164717.11 ]

Probably depends on the BIOS brand and generation -- my current Award BIOS can be updated on line from the ASUS website, from a floppy, from a thumbdrive ...... probably anything! It's reversible too ....

Hugh

#15 of 107 Posted Nov-2 4:16 PM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1978 Last 2:18 AM
To Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo [Msg # 164717.15 164717.10 ]

>>Vista also need this to be done. Vista can use a thumb drive for the drivers...

>>Just so I have a floppy drive

I purchased one some time ago but have not used it much...

#16 of 107 Posted Nov-2 4:20 PM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1978 Last 2:18 AM
To Ronald McDonald [Msg # 164717.16 164717.11 ]

Most modern bioses can either be upgraded from a thumb drive or from within Windows itself. If a bootable device is required, a thumb drive can be created that boots into DOS. I did that myself for one system...

Far more reliable than floppies, BTW...

#17 of 107 Posted Nov-2 6:25 PM

From Ronald McDonald Posts 553 Last Nov-23
To Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) [Msg # 164717.17 164717.16 ]

Ok Dale, I had that in mind too to use a flash drive (I suppose that's what you mean by thumb drive), but I sure wouldn't know how to make it boot-able though.

#18 of 107 Posted Nov-2 6:31 PM

From Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo Posts 42 Last Nov-24
To Ronald McDonald [Msg # 164717.18 164717.13 ]

Hi Ron,

Yes it has just one. I wish it had alot more of each type. But I guess this is a cheaper motherboard or this type. It says it will take an i7 processor, but I don't know if it would take the i7 - 975 processor?
Anyway I guess I have to use whatever card that matches the slot that is available.

1ea PCI bus connector

1ea PCI Express 2.0 x1 connector
1ea PCI Express 2.0 x1 connector 2 total

1ea PCI Express 2.0 x16 connector

Scott Evans
MS-Internet Explorer forum
Microsoft MVP - IE

#19 of 107 Posted Nov-2 6:38 PM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1978 Last 2:18 AM
To Ronald McDonald [Msg # 164717.19 164717.17 ]

There's an HP tool that I use for the bootable process. You still need DS files available for it to install, but the tool knows the magic to make things happen...

Thumb/Flash/whatever - all mean the same thing in this contect...

#20 of 107 Posted Nov-2 6:40 PM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1978 Last 2:18 AM
To Scott Evans/WUGNET Sysop/IESUPPORT Fo [Msg # 164717.20 164717.18 ]

The 9xxx CPU's are Socket 1366 parts. The i6/i7 voards use Socket 1156 CPU's...

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