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Domestic Issues/Treasury

NY 23rd

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     Posted Nov-4 9:16 PM   
Carl Feick (SYSOP)
 
From  Carl Feick (SYSOP)  Posts 8895  Last 3:24 AM
To  All      [Msg # 43745.1 ]    
With all the MSM pundits calling Hoffmans loss a loss for the conservative movement, maybe we need to actually look at what happened.

We had party hacks pick a Liberal (not moderate) Republican to run against a moderate (right of the Republican candidate) Democrat. 
The conservatives ran Hoffman as a spoiler and he did his job, Dede conceded, conservatives won, a moderate Democrat is now in office for a year vs a liberal Republican. 
What was not expected was that Dede would drop out days before the election.  to add insult to the Republican hacks Dede went and added her support to the Democrat.  Had there been a week or more between when Dede dropped out and the election maybe the result would have been different.  Or better if the party hacks had picked an actual moderate or conservative candidate rather than a liberal one this never would have come into being.
But that is not all.  we had a Stiff and not very well spoken conservative party candidate carpetbagger come within spitting distance of winning the 23rd vs Owens who is from the 23rd.  That is not good news for Owens if he doesn't deliver.

Edited Nov-4   by  Carl Feick (SYSOP)
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     Posted Nov-5 7:36 AM   
enginetrains
 
From  enginetrains  Posts 418  Last Nov-24
To  Carl Feick (SYSOP)      [Msg # 43745.2 Message 43745.2 replying to 43745.1 43745.1 ]    
I'm a former NYer.  New York is not a Conservative state.  NY Republicans have always been moderate to liberal Javits, Rockefeller, Pataki).  That Conservative Hoffman was able to come within about 5,000 votes of defeating a liberal Democrat is in an of itself a victory.  The members of the Republican establishment who either supported Scozzafava or stood silent (tacitly supporting her) ought to be held accountable at the polls for their actions.  Newt Gingrich and Michael Steele really ought to answer for their support of Scozzafava.
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     Posted Nov-5 9:10 AM   
Carl Feick (SYSOP)
 
From  Carl Feick (SYSOP)  Posts 8895  Last 3:24 AM
To  enginetrains      [Msg # 43745.3 Message 43745.3 replying to 43745.2 43745.2 ]    
New York is not a Conservative state.
not quite so true when it comes to money issues.
That Conservative Hoffman was able to come within about 5,000 votes of defeating a liberal Democrat is in an of itself a victory.
actually he came within about 5000 votes of defeating a moderate Democrat.  Dede was far left of the Democrat.  If liberals were not so party over ideals then they would have supported Dede over the Democrat.
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     Posted Nov-7 11:35 AM   
Carl Feick (SYSOP)
 
From  Carl Feick (SYSOP)  Posts 8895  Last 3:24 AM
To  enginetrains      [Msg # 43745.4 Message 43745.4 replying to 43745.2 43745.2 ]    
Well my prior post to you was a bust.  Owens campaigned as a moderate Democrat but the lie was disclosed upon his taking office and promptly breaking 4 campaign promises.  So we now have a liberal Democrat in office vs a liberal Republican. 
Cite

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     Posted Nov-7 11:43 AM   
enginetrains
 
From  enginetrains  Posts 418  Last Nov-24
To  Carl Feick (SYSOP)      [Msg # 43745.5 Message 43745.5 replying to 43745.4 43745.4 ]    
Why am I not surprised? 
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     Posted Nov-7 1:52 PM   
Carl Feick (SYSOP)
 
From  Carl Feick (SYSOP)  Posts 8895  Last 3:24 AM
To  enginetrains      [Msg # 43745.6 Message 43745.6 replying to 43745.5 43745.5 ]    
because we are talking about a liberal Democrat of this day and age.
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