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ST:TOS revisited

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#1 of 7

     Posted Oct-8 9:46 AM   
Jon Woolf
 
From  Jon Woolf  Posts 120  Last Nov-24
To  All      [Msg # 130076.1 ]    
The other day I found Season 1 of ST:TOS on DVD for a ridiculously low price, so I bought it.  I have a handful of my favorite TOS epsodes on VHS tape, but only a few, and those are 10-15 years old and rather deteriorated.  It's been a fair few years since I saw most of the Season 1 episodes, and more than that since I saw them complete and uncut.  In fact, I'm wondering whether I ever saw them complete and uncut, as originally telecast.  Yesterday and today I went through three episodes ("Man Trap," "Where No Man Has Gone Before," and "Balance of Terror"), and I have a distinct feeling there are scenes and shots there that I've never seen before.

These are the 'remastered' DVDs released a couple of years ago, with digitally-restored prints and soundtracks, and CGI revisions to most of the external effects shots.  When I first heard about this restoration/revision/updating project, I was afraid that the result would be modern-looking effects shots tacked onto original-sixties live-action shots, making it look worse than the originals ever did.  But that's not what happened.  Someone at Paramount had a flash of good sense, and the people they hired to handle the restoration/update were all Star Trek veterans and Star Trek fans.  Yes, they created new effects using all the tools we have now that didn't exist forty years ago -- but they used those tools carefully, always making sure that the new SFX shots look consistent with the original live-action footage and with the original shooting scripts.  The result is changes that are (in most cases) so subtle and restrained that if you didn't already know what was new and what was old, you probably couldn't tell. 

The second thing I noticed is that there are all sorts of subtleties in the show that frankly, I never noticed before.  Maybe that's just because it's been so long since I saw some of these episodes, and I'm a more 'aware' viewer now.  Whatever the reason for it, it's giving me a new appreciation for the cast and crew on TOS.  For example, there are always extras in the background, in a variety of costumes, doing a variety of things that add to the ambiance of "functional ship with all the usual thousand and one shipboard jobs to be done, all the time."  There's also much more of a "shipboard discipline" feel to things -- not exactly military, and obviously changed to fit the needs of network TV, but any ship, even a tramp freighter, needs a level of discipline that none of the later versions of ST ever managed to reproduce.  But these episodes of TOS did.   

Very interesting, revisiting TOS this way.  And fun. 

-- JSW
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     Posted Oct-8 11:36 PM   
StarFuryG7
 
From  StarFuryG7  Posts 397  Last Nov-24
To  Jon Woolf      [Msg # 130076.2 Message 130076.2 replying to 130076.1 130076.1 ]    

      Some of those extras in the background that you mentioned may actually be people who did the upgraded FX works for the remastered DVD Sets; they actually worked themselves into some of the scenes where they felt they could.

      And the reason you get the military feel that you also mentioned was because Roddenberry and others behind TOS had actually served, so it's present and noticeable in that show, whereas the shows that came later were worked on by pantywastes who were never in any branch of military service, and their writing reflected that fact also.

Just out of curiosity, how much did you get the Set for?

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     Posted Oct-9 6:25 AM   
Jon Woolf
 
From  Jon Woolf  Posts 120  Last Nov-24
To  StarFuryG7      [Msg # 130076.3 Message 130076.3 replying to 130076.2 130076.2 ]    
>>  Some of those extras in the background that you mentioned may actually be people who did the upgraded FX works for the remastered DVD Sets; they actually worked themselves into some of the scenes where they felt they could. <<

Possible, but I don't think so.  These are people moving around, doing things in the background, and occasionally you see Kirk or somebody reacting to one of them. 

>> And the reason you get the military feel that you also mentioned was because Roddenberry and others behind TOS had actually served, so it's present and noticeable in that show, whereas the shows that came later were worked on by pantywastes who were never in any branch of military service, and their writing reflected that fact also. <<

Partly, yes.  But I think it's partly also that Roddenberry ... well, let's say that between TOS and TNG, for a variety of reasons Roddenberry deliberately de-militarized Starfleet and turned it into a milksop-liberal vision of the perfect future, without any regard for real-world concerns like chain of command or shipboard discipline. 

-- JSW
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     Posted Oct-9 6:30 AM   
StarFuryG7
 
From  StarFuryG7  Posts 397  Last Nov-24
To  Jon Woolf      [Msg # 130076.4 Message 130076.4 replying to 130076.3 130076.3 ]    

>>Possible, but I don't think so.  These are people moving around, doing things in the background, and occasionally you see Kirk or somebody reacting to one of them.<<

      They move around also in the scenes I alluded to. I recall one scene where it was pretty darn noticeable because the guy was behind the transporter console wearing an outfit that didn't seem consistent with the ships crew I seem to recall. It looked like something out of TNG instead.

      You didn't tell me how much you paid for it. I bought all three at a reasonable price last year. Best Buy had a great deal on all three, so I went for it.

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     Posted Oct-9 12:47 PM   
Jon Woolf
 
From  Jon Woolf  Posts 120  Last Nov-24
To  StarFuryG7      [Msg # 130076.5 Message 130076.5 replying to 130076.4 130076.4 ]    
>> They move around also in the scenes I alluded to. I recall one scene where it was pretty darn noticeable because the guy was behind the transporter console wearing an outfit that didn't seem consistent with the ships crew I seem to recall.  <<

I don't recall seeing anything like that, at least not yet.  I'm noticing people in TOS-era Starfleet uniforms, and in silvery full-body-with-helmet 'protective' suits that look kinda like radiation protection suits out of 1950s movies.

As for price: if you also got it for under $1.70 per episode, then yeah, you got a good deal.

-- JSW
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#6 of 7

     Posted Oct-9 1:10 PM   
StarFuryG7
 
From  StarFuryG7  Posts 397  Last Nov-24
To  Jon Woolf      [Msg # 130076.6 Message 130076.6 replying to 130076.5 130076.5 ]    

   I forget which season and episode the scene I mentioned appeared in --it may not have been Season 1. In fact, I think it was one of the later seasons actually, where they may have felt it all right to get a little bolder in terms of what they wanted to do.

   As for what I paid --I got all three Seasons of the re-mastered episodes for $99 at Best Buy when they were running a special sale. People had to go to their website repeatedly the week they were running it though as I recall in order to get them for that price.

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     Posted Nov-2 10:13 PM   
Jon Woolf
 
From  Jon Woolf  Posts 120  Last Nov-24
To  All      [Msg # 130076.7 Message 130076.7 replying to 130076.1 130076.1 ]    
This afternoon and evening I watched some more of the remastered/updated episodes of ST:TOS.  Two first-season episodes, "Devil in the Dark" and "The Alternative Factor," and one from Season 2 which I just bought for about the same price, "The Doomsday Machine." 

"Devil in the Dark" is about the same as it has always been.  As a primarily on-the-ground ... well, actually under-the-ground episode, it benefited little from the "improved" special effects.  Not that it needed any improvement.  It started as one of TOS's best and still is. 

"Alternative Factor" surprised me.  With most scenes either on the ground or aboard ship, it too had little room for improvement in the SFX.  However... IMX, "Alternative Factor" has always been considered by most fans (including me) to be a pretty weak episode for several reasons.  I'm not so sure that's accurate any more.  It'll never be in my list of favorites, but it was better, and more interesting, than I remember it being. 

Which brings us to "The Doomsday Machine."  Of all the episodes in the series, I expected this one to benefit the most from the "new and improved" special effects.  The original series SFX budget and technology simply were not sufficient to do proper justice to this extremely SFX-heavy episode, and the fact that the SFX were flatly botched in several shots didn't help.  But with the CGI effects and some judicious minor revisions to the space-battle sequences, "Doomsday Machine" just plain rocks.  It was always one of my favorites; now it's even better because the effects are up to the quality of the writing and acting. 

I'm looking forward to watching the disk that features "The Trouble with Tribbles."  An entire disk is given to that one episode and a horde of extras: the animated episode "More Tribbles, More Troubles," and several things about the associated episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, "Trials and Tribble-ations." 

-- JSW
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