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* How Did Serbia's Dictator Escape?

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     Posted Oct-26 1:27 PM   
John Linendoll
 
From  John Linendoll  Posts 1329  Last Nov-24
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How Did Serbia's Dictator Escape?

Remember former Serb strongman Radovan Karadžic?  First president of the so-called Republic of Serbia [Republika Srpska], Karadžic was finally captured last year and now awaits trial before The Hague Tribunal.  But he's refusing to come out of his cell for his trial.  What do you think authorities should do?

Those running the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) at The Hague, Netherlands say they're determined to proceed with or without the accused.

But what impact do you think that could have upon the meaning of the proceedings?

The tribunal was established in 1993, and has more than a thousand staff members.

During its existence, the tribunal so far counts the following among its accomplishments, according to a tally by Wikipedia:

  "Spearheading the shift from impunity to accountability", pointing out that, until very recently, it was the only court judging crimes committed as part of the Yugoslav conflict, since prosecutors in the former Yugoslavia were, as a rule, reluctant to prosecute such crimes;

  "Establishing the facts", highlighting the extensive evidence-gathering and lengthy findings of fact that Tribunal judgments produced;

  "Bringing justice to thousands of victims and giving them a voice", pointing out the large number of witnesses that had been brought before the Tribunal;

  "The accomplishments in international law", describing the fleshing out of several international criminal law concepts which had not been ruled on since the Nuremberg Trials;

  "Strengthening the Rule of Law", referring to the Tribunal's role in promoting the use of international standards in war crimes prosecutions by former Yugoslav republics.

There are even cells for the accused and for prisoners:

              File:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg
A typical 15 m2 single cell at the ICTY detention facilities.
Photograph provided courtesy of the ICTY.

What do you think?

[Views expressed are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect those of CompuServe, Netscape, any government, agency, or news organization.]


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     Posted Oct-26 1:30 PM   
John Linendoll
 
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        File:ICTY 2006-01-16.jpg
               The Tribunal building in The Hague, photo courtesy Wikipedia
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     Posted Oct-26 1:34 PM   
John Linendoll
 
From  John Linendoll  Posts 1329  Last Nov-24
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                      File:Evstafiev-Radovan Karadzic 3MAR94.jpg
           Radovan Karadžic in Moscow on 3 March 1994, photo courtesy Wikipedia
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     Posted Oct-26 1:37 PM   
John Linendoll
 
From  John Linendoll  Posts 1329  Last Nov-24
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How did he escape capture for so long?  Perhaps his physical appearance offers a clue.  Does it remind you of how Saddan Hussein looked at the time of his arrest?

                                     File:Radovan Karadzic 2008.jpg
BBC photo of Radovan Karadžic, disguised as "D. D. David" at a conference on alternative medicine in Belgrade in January, 2008, photo courtesy Wikipedia

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     Posted Oct-26 9:27 PM   
TC
 
From  TC  Posts 458  Last Nov-24
To  John Linendoll      [Msg # 115610.5 Message 115610.5 replying to 115610.1 115610.1 ]    
But he's refusing to come out of his cell for his trial.  What do you think authorities should do?
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Try him in his absence.
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     Posted Oct-27 12:50 PM   
John Linendoll
 
From  John Linendoll  Posts 1329  Last Nov-24
To  TC      [Msg # 115610.6 Message 115610.6 replying to 115610.5 115610.5 ]    

This just broke on the Times of London site:

Karadzic heard discussing mass slaughter of Muslims in phonetap evidence

Bosnian Serb wartime leader Radovan Karadzic at the UN International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in The Hague
 

Judge O-Gon Kwon, the chief judge, issued a second warning that Mr Karadzic would have a legal representative imposed upon him if he continued to remain in his cell, and ruled that the prosecution could begin to outline the case against him.


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     Posted Oct-27 12:56 PM   
John Linendoll
 
From  John Linendoll  Posts 1329  Last Nov-24
To  TC      [Msg # 115610.7 Message 115610.7 replying to 115610.5 115610.5 ]    

Try him in his absence

Why not just drag him into court and force him to see and hear the horrific evidence against him?

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     Posted Oct-28 1:42 PM   
TC
 
From  TC  Posts 458  Last Nov-24
To  John Linendoll      [Msg # 115610.9 Message 115610.9 replying to 115610.7 115610.7 ]    (Unread)
Why not just drag him into court and force him to see and hear the horrific evidence against him?
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I wouldn't even give him the time of day.
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     Posted Nov-6 9:24 PM   
bstnteap
 
From  bstnteap  Posts 1631  Last Nov-20
To  John Linendoll      [Msg # 115610.10 Message 115610.10 replying to 115610.7 115610.7 ]    (Unread)
>>Why not just drag him into court and force him to see and hear the horrific evidence against him?<<

I couldn't agree more.   He needs to be a man, face his accusers, and quit stalling the inevitable.   He's had years to prepare what presumably would be his defense (sic), and he's trying to make a mockery of the judicial process by pretending that he's immune from it.   Time is up for this monster.   It's time for some accountability for this mass murderer of women, children, and babies.   He didn't "cleanse" everybody, thank God, so there are at least a few witnesses left to finger him.




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     Posted Nov-7 3:42 AM   
Kate
 
From  Kate  Posts 16  Last Nov-17
To  TC      [Msg # 115610.11 Message 115610.11 replying to 115610.9 115610.9 ]    

>>>I wouldn't even give him the time of day<<<

Maybe you wouldn't, but I'd give him all the time of every day...in prison.
This week a sort of public defender was assigned to him...and the trial has been postponed until March 2010 to give the new lawyer time to prepare. The ICTY uses the UN detention unit at Scheveningen (the ocean side of The Hague). As prisons go, it's pretty cushy. But it's still prison. Perhaps Karadzic will do us the favour that Milosevic did and die in prison. But I know there are many victims who need to be heard, need him to hear of their horrors. He needs to see footage of the mass graves, listen to the reports of those who survived.
So I'd give him plenty of time....years and years of time....all the time in the world!

kate

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