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#1 of 35

     Posted Oct-31 3:00 PM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 553  Last Nov-23
To  All      [Msg # 164713.1 ]    
Hi,

From time to time I'm hearing loud and long beeps in such a way that I wonder if it wouldn't an alien trying to communicate with me.  <g>

Seriously, I started out yesterday past the Windows registry recovery that I did to allow me to boot up once again.

Any ideas?

The only thing I could find in event manager is this:

Event Type:    Error
Event Source:    DCOM
Event Category:    None
Event ID:    10005
Date:        10/31/2009
Time:        1:56:39 PM
User:        FOXCONN\Barpos
Computer:    FOXCONN
Description:
DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. " attempting to start the service MDM with arguments "" in order to run the server:
{0C0A3666-30C9-11D0-8F20-00805F2CD064}

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.


Ronald
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#2 of 35

     Posted Oct-31 5:33 PM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1978  Last 2:18 AM
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 164713.2 Message 164713.2 replying to 164713.1 164713.1 ]    

>>the Windows registry recovery that I did

What "recovery" and why was that needed?

 

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#3 of 35

     Posted Oct-31 5:42 PM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 553  Last Nov-23
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164713.3 Message 164713.3 replying to 164713.2 164713.2 ]    
I was getting a "system32\config\system" is not present or corrupt error.  That came along after I tried to recover my missing HDD which showed up in the BIOS, but not in Windows.

Now, I'm booting fine, but I get these beeps from time to time.  My speakers are not connected.  It's the motherboard buzzer that I hear.  Since it is intermittent, it is difficult to test it.  I could boot from another OS drive (which I have handy) ...

Regards,

Ron
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#4 of 35

     Posted Oct-31 5:47 PM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1978  Last 2:18 AM
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 164713.4 Message 164713.4 replying to 164713.3 164713.3 ]    

>>It's the motherboard buzzer that I hear. 

That sounds like a hardware issue.  If a Sound Card is detected and installed, the motherboard speaker is totally silent in Windows...

 

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#5 of 35

     Posted Oct-31 5:58 PM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 553  Last Nov-23
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164713.5 Message 164713.5 replying to 164713.4 164713.4 ]    
Yes, it does sound like a hardware issue ... by the sound alone.  Looking at the capacitors on the motherboard, 2 or 3 of them seem to have swelled.  One of them has burst open.

Ron
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#6 of 35

     Posted Oct-31 9:03 PM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1978  Last 2:18 AM
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 164713.6 Message 164713.6 replying to 164713.5 164713.5 ]    

>>Looking at the capacitors on the motherboard, 2 or 3 of them seem to have swelled.  One of them has burst open

Definate "broken" motherboard.  Guaranteed to be UNRELIABLE no matter what you do...

Until that is replaced, nothing else you do will work...

 

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#7 of 35

     Posted Oct-31 9:30 PM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 553  Last Nov-23
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164713.7 Message 164713.7 replying to 164713.6 164713.6 ]    
Dale,

I will acquire a new PC and keep this one as a backup, in case the other one fails on me, giving me access to the internet and all.  I don't care about the long beeps ...  Yeah, I could even buy some replacement capacitors and re-solder them on my M/B.  Not sure I want to spend $ on a backup PC.  Capacitors cost peanuts.

Ronald


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#8 of 35

     Posted Oct-31 9:37 PM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1978  Last 2:18 AM
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 164713.8 Message 164713.8 replying to 164713.7 164713.7 ]    

>> keep this one as a backup

WHY???

Seriously, the hardware HAS FAILED and is not reliable for any activity, with those failed capacitors...

I fail to see your reasoning in expecting thinhs things to work properly when using known defectibe hardware...

 

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#10 of 35

     Posted Oct-31 10:15 PM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 553  Last Nov-23
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164713.10 Message 164713.10 replying to 164713.8 164713.8 ]    
I only noticed those capacitors after I had tried the new [more powerful] power supply (made in china, I only paid $38.50 for it) which I obviously suspected it had killed my PC.  The store told me if may or may not matter if the capacitors look the way they do.  So, I tried to fix the PC nonetheless since buying a new PC takes several days.  <g>  The only hick is the long beeps that occur once in a very long time.  Other than that, the PC is working like a charm.  As for the character artifacts, that only occurs on the new monitor (w/ or w/out cleartype), not on my old ViewSonic one.  I'll bring the new monitor to a friend of mine to test it on his system.

A backup PC would only be used a few hours a year.  I see no point of throwing away a PC I'm still able to chat over this forum. 

I do need two PC's, one that I use regularly and one that I keep off at all times except in a case of emergency.  Buying two new PC's would be way too expensive for me.

Ron
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#11 of 35

     Posted Oct-31 10:22 PM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1978  Last 2:18 AM
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 164713.11 Message 164713.11 replying to 164713.10 164713.10 ]    

>>The store told me if may or may not matter if the capacitors look the way they do. 

Baloney!  Your own experiences for some time now have pointed to a hardware issue and the Capacitors have verified the source of the trouble...

>>the PC is working like a charm

REALLY?  Then, WHY are you needing to do things like "recover the registry"???

IMHO, it's time to recognixe the PC is NOT running properly and either fix or toss...

Friends do not allow friends to use "known defective" equipment...

 

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#12 of 35

     Posted Nov-1 1:06 AM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 553  Last Nov-23
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164713.12 Message 164713.12 replying to 164713.11 164713.11 ]    
>REALLY?  Then, WHY are you needing to do things like "recover the registry"???<

I bought this PC complete and brand-new from a local store 3 years ago.  I've had problem with registry corruption pretty much all along.  Actually, it's been a while since it has destroy my registry.  Everybody has serious problems with Windows, but most people just reformat and reinstall Windows when unexplained problems occur.  I just restore a backup image, keeping the problems for later.  After a while, you have lots of problems on your hands.  I have so many programs installed it would take me forever to reinstall everything and retrieve my hidden accounting data.  Well, I did reformat once or twice in my 3 years.

>Friends do not allow friends to use "known defective" equipment...<

I've run tons of hardware tests, nothing wrong came up.  Viruses are powerful things, so one always suspect viruses to be the cause of problems, especially when the problems manifest themselves in the software (in this case, Windows).  The Windows registry is software-based, not hardware-based.  So, none of my friends could assure me of hardware problems.  And Windows Event Viewer has been silent.

If Windows was made properly, malware would be easy to spot, but no ... when using Windows, you have to pray that everything goes according to plan.  Whatever runs in the background is not for you to know.  As if this was a secret.    How difficult would it be to make an O.S. that allows the user to trace what is running, why it is running and who it belongs to (including contact info)?  MS certification is a way to somewhat counter problems, but few companies do it.  Why not force everyone to do a basic registration, just so to have records and traces of what runs (and log of what ran) on our PC.

The DVR's that I sell have very informative live info and recorded logs, telling us who is doing what and who did what and when, recording usernames, passwords and IP addresses of people connecting to the DVR locally or remotely.  Similar to Event Viewer, it records hardware failures, but unlike Windows the logs can be understand by humans.

Regards,

Ron




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#13 of 35

     Posted Nov-1 1:35 AM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1978  Last 2:18 AM
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 164713.13 Message 164713.13 replying to 164713.12 164713.12 ]    

>> I've had problem with registry corruption pretty much all along. 

There is something intrinsicly wrong in either the hardware, the software installed or the operating procedures, if that is happening...

>>Everybody has serious problems with Windows

That is an incorrect statement.  I support manu ysers who have ZERO problems and they use their systems daily for many tasks.  Poor hygene and computing practices cause most of the problems...

>> most people just reformat and reinstall Windows when unexplained problems occur

Another incorrect assumption.  In all my years, I have had ONE situation where a re-format was the best approach.  Massive viral infection (over 8000 files) and the client runs ONE application and it's data files were intact.  Re-loading Windows was easier than eradicating the vermin in that specific scenario...

My wife's system has migreted across multiple motherboards and HD's since 2004 on the very same install - never blipped once, for example...

>>I've run tons of hardware tests,

Just read the various problem issues you have reported over time - those are indicative of failures...

>> Viruses are powerful things

HUH?  We're talking "verified hardware problem" - where did malware come into the picture???

>>none of my friends could assure me of hardware problems.

Get better friends, my friend...

>>How difficult would it be to make an O.S. that allows the user to trace what is running

VERY.  To properly run a trace, the tracer has to be EXTERNAL to what is being traced...

 

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#14 of 35

     Posted Nov-1 1:47 AM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 553  Last Nov-23
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164713.14 Message 164713.14 replying to 164713.13 164713.13 ]    
>There is something intrinsicly wrong in either the hardware, the software installed or the operating procedures, if that is happening...<

Well Dale, as for the hardware, I didn't make it. (why I was thinking of Intel motherboard for the next one)  <s> Operating procedures?  Ok, blame the victim. <g>

>That is an incorrect statement.<

Ok, companies and organizations don't have as much problems, I must admit.   Such companies don't use pirated software and use anti-viruses that are less prone to problems.  My corporate client here in town, they refuse to use Norton products.  Instead they use NOD32 and they never have any problems with it.  In contrast, I have tons of problems with Norton products.  I had less problems with Trend Micro, but I think Norton Internet Security 2009/2010 is awesome (when not considering the problems incurred).

 It's mostly the individuals that have to re-format every now and then.  Most individuals here (this country is not tough on piracy laws) do use pirated software.  I have NEVER met anyone that purchases all software used at home or small businesses. 

>My wife's system has migreted across multiple motherboards and HD's since 2004 on the very same install - never blipped once, for example...<

Your wife must be playing FreeCell most of the time. <g>  I do hear this arguments from some people, I don't have any problems with my system, why are you having so many problems with yours?  Sure, you browse the net from time to time or chat via live messenger.  I call that bare usage.

>Just read the various problem issues you have reported over time - those are indicative of failures...<

Maybe to you, but not to me as a user.  The error mentioned corruption.  If Windows was smart enough (even DOS was doing a much better job), it would detect hardware problems and not expect users to guess while providing software-based errors.  My DVR's, for example, not only detect HDD problems upon failure, but predict them.  Yes, it states the health of the installed HDD's percentage wise.  So, one can make an informed decision as to whether to replace the drive or not.  It's only the incompatibilities that it has problems dealing with.  When using an AMD PC or non-Intel chipsets, the problem crashes, then auto-restarts itself w/out any errors whatsoever, then cycles again via another crash and restart.

>VERY.  To properly run a trace, the tracer has to be EXTERNAL to what is being traced...<

MSCONFIG often provides us with little info.  If all software makers were forced to register their software (and detail their background add-ons) info before being allowed to run on Windows, we could somehow make out the content of MSCONFIG and the like.  Right now, it's free for all, similar to the internet, hoping everyone will behave.  This is silly.  Anyone can come up with such a disorganized system.


Ron

 

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#15 of 35

     Posted Nov-1 3:26 AM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1978  Last 2:18 AM
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 164713.15 Message 164713.15 replying to 164713.14 164713.14 ]    

>>(why I was thinking of Intel motherboard for the next one) 

Intel is "just a brand" - they do not make the boards, Foxcon does, and they do NOT use the better capacitors on all the areas of their boards.  ASUS and Gigabyte do, for example...

>>It's mostly the individuals that have to re-format every now and then.

You aee still painting a very wide brush.  I support home systems as well and they are not re=formatting all the time either...

>>Most individuals here (this country is not tough on piracy laws) do use pirated software

No idea where this came into the discussion...

>>Your wife must be playing FreeCell most of the time. <g> 

My wife [heavily] used many applications and used them well.  Why is this so difficult to fathom?

>>If Windows was smart enough (even DOS was doing a much better job), it would detect hardware problems

That's like saying your car lacks the smarts to "know" a tire is flat (defective hardware).  DRIVING will inform the operator of the problem, not "the car".  Windows "failing" is telling you there is an underlying hardware issue, but you are choosing to ignore it.  I have to ask why?

SMART technology (the prediction indicator in HD's) is only as good as it's reporting and  have seen many scenarios were the SMART information is incorrect.  Your DVR's are looking at that info, nothing more.  Or, are you saying the DVR has sophisticated surface scanning technology for the HD?  I doubt that is the case...

>>When using an AMD PC or non-Intel chipsets, the problem crashes, then auto-restarts itself w/out any errors whatsoever, then cycles again via another crash and restart.

Bad programming, pure and simple...

>>MSCONFIG often provides us with little info.

That's why I use and recommend Autoruns instead.  Much richer info about all the things loading when Windows does...

 

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     Posted Nov-1 3:58 AM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 553  Last Nov-23
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164713.16 Message 164713.16 replying to 164713.15 164713.15 ]    
>Intel is "just a brand" - they do not make the boards, Foxcon does, and they do NOT use the better capacitors on all the areas of their boards.<

My motherboard is a FoxConn and my high-end DVR cards make the PC choke.  The PC won't even turn ON.  Those cards were meant for Intel motherboards only, now I hear they can work with any motherboard.  Foxconn making Intel motherboards means nothing to me.  It doesn't mean they make them the same way.

>  ASUS and Gigabyte do, for example...<

Better capacitors?

>You aee still painting a very wide brush.  I support home systems as well and they are not re=formatting all the time either...<

Well, you are not living in this province.  People here really do.  They don't fix things, they just re-format.  Nor do they hire someone like you to fix their PC's.

>I have to ask why?<

Simply because I have no way of knowing if it isn't Windows being unreliable period, especially when hardware tests pass.  There's no reason for me to blame hardware.  Nonetheless, I'm buying a new PC.  We'll see ...  I'll be buying from a reputable store where they provide full warranty service (3 or 5 years).  Having to send your motherboard to the manufacturer just because one feels it might be the actual culprit is unacceptable.  Being 3 weeks w/out your PC is unreal.

>SMART technology (the prediction indicator in HD's) is only as good as it's reporting and  have seen many scenarios were the SMART information is incorrect.  Your DVR's are looking at that info, nothing more.  Or, are you saying the DVR has sophisticated surface scanning technology for the HD?  I doubt that is the case...<

You're right, it's using SMART technology.

>Bad programming, pure and simple...<

Like I said, all the DVR brands I've seen for far don't like AMD.  See http://www.geovision.com.tw/english/product/GV-1480A.htm&#160; They only suggest Intel processors.  And they do mention to avoid non-Intel chipsets.

>That's why I use and recommend Autoruns instead.  Much richer info about all the things loading when Windows does...<

Ok, a few minutes ago while I was in bed, a popup window came up ... I have no idea if it is legitimate or not.  How can I find such info in Autoruns?  The title bar name is "Update Manager".  It proclaims to be from InstaShield.  There a list of four programs ready to be updated.  One of the four program is "SR-304N".  I don't have a clue what that is.  So, I search for it in Windows files search.  It didn't find anything.  So, here comes the guessing game.

Regards,

Ron

P.S.  Anyone can detect a flat tire, it's obvious.  No guessing game, no false signals.  Well, actually one time I was driving on the highway through rough rain and didn't notice a flat tire.  When I finally realized it, I stopped the the tire was badly smoking. <g>

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#17 of 35

     Posted Nov-1 4:23 AM   
Judy M.
 
From  Judy M.  Posts 1349  Last Nov-24
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 164713.17 Message 164713.17 replying to 164713.16 164713.16 ]    

I agree with Dale that it's not true that "everyone reformats" all the time. Many people do, or they reinstall Windows from a recovery disk. But it doesn't have to be true.

I've NEVER had to reformat a drive or do a complete reinstall of Windows due to unsolvable problems in 18 years of using Windows. My systems don't slow down. A crash has been extremely rare since XP went on my systems and when I was using Vista, it never crashed. Even in Win 9x days, I didn't have frequent crashes.

I'm a home user and I do a lot more than surf the Web. I use many programs, but I know what they are and where they come from. There is no pirated software on any of my computers. First of all, I think it's wrong to pirate software or do illegal downloads of music, software, etc. Second, using pirated software is one of the best ways to get infested with all manner of horrible stuff.

I agree it would be wonderful if we had this self-diagnosing hardware, but that's probably a pipe dream, so not worth wasting any "wish" cycles. Same for software.

What you want could only happen with a closed system even worse than Apple's, where a manufacturer had strict control over hardware and software. But then things would be considerably more expensive and our choices markedly worse. It's not a tradeoff I'd want to make.
--Judy M.


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     Posted Nov-1 11:12 AM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1978  Last 2:18 AM
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 164713.18 Message 164713.18 replying to 164713.16 164713.16 ]    

>>Those cards were meant for Intel motherboards only

I would not consider those to be "high end" cards, then...

>>Better capacitors?

Yep!  The solid stuff, not the ones with the little "x" in the top that can bulge/rupture...

>>you are not living in this province.

Time to educate the province, perhaps?  Seriously, it is a matter of mental mindset...

>>I have no way of knowing if it isn't Windows being unreliable

Windows is not the "unreliable" issue here - the underlying hardware is...

Note the page you listed says NOTHING about the CPU:

----------------------------
Note: GV-1480A is currently not compatible with VIA series and ATI series chipset motherboards, and 64-bit Windows operating system.
---------------------------

>>How can I find such info in Autoruns? 

Install the program and take a look.  It helps to click on Options "Hide MS and Windows entries" so all you are looking at is the third-party stuff installed after Windows was...

>>Anyone can detect a flat tire, it's obvious. 

So are "Bad capacitors", yet you insist there is nothing mechanicly wrong.  Son;t be so certain about detecting a flat tire - there are manu driving with very underinflated tires and don't bother noticing...

 

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     Posted Nov-1 6:37 PM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 553  Last Nov-23
To  Judy M.      [Msg # 164713.19 Message 164713.19 replying to 164713.17 164713.17 ]    

>I'm a home user and I do a lot more than surf the Web. I use many programs, but I know what they are and where they come from. There is no pirated software on any of my computers. First of all, I think it's wrong to pirate software or do illegal downloads of music, software, etc. Second, using pirated software is one of the best ways to get infested with all manner of horrible stuff.<

I agree with you.  I wish I could afford all the software I need to compete in this world.  Example, I use photoshop only on occasions.  If I were to purchase all Adobe CS4 series (Dreamweaver, Flash and photoshop) it would cost me a fortune.  Sure, there are alternatives.  Example, I purchased MS Frontpage 2003 and MS abandonned it soon thereafter.  I purchased Office Accounting in 2007, MS just abandonned it. 

>I agree it would be wonderful if we had this self-diagnosing hardware, but that's probably a pipe dream, so not worth wasting any "wish" cycles. Same for software.<

No it's not.  The first IBM PC's were very smart.  Anything hardware related, you'd get an IBM error # which you could look up in the user manual that came with the PC.

Ron

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     Posted Nov-1 6:51 PM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 553  Last Nov-23
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164713.20 Message 164713.20 replying to 164713.18 164713.18 ]    

>Note the page you listed says NOTHING about the CPU:<

Yes, it does.  Look again.  The suggested CPU's are Intel only.

>Install the program and take a look.  It helps to click on Options "Hide MS and Windows entries" so all you are looking at is the third-party stuff installed after Windows was...<

I have it installed already, but only on my other OS drive.  I'm currently testing a different OS drive and so far, no weird beeps nor character artifacts.  Nothing stange!  I can't make up flaws I don't see. <g>  The OS drive with odd behavior doesn't not have a perfect health according to SMART II.  So, maybe SMART II isn't as stupid afterall, or else there a virus on that drive.

>So are "Bad capacitors", yet you insist there is nothing mechanicly wrong. <

I do see the bad capacitors now. 

Regards,

Ron

 

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